Microsoft's participation in World IPv6 day

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2533454/

Uh...

                                -Bill

snicker. snicker. lol. rofl. "we'll fix our ipv6 support by, well, not using it!"

It's not Microsoft's IPv6 support they're fixing, which works fine from my experience with it, they're making sure you can access sites if your ISP or Router's IPv6 handling is screwed up.

Paul

While I'm far from a Microsoft apologist (not really even a fan, TBH), it's worth pointing out that they're not pushing this out via Windows Update or anything. It's intended only as a remedy for the (as they themselves claim) <0.1% of users who may encounter issues next Wednesday:

http://blogs.technet.com/b/ipv6/archive/2011/02/11/ipv6-day.aspx

  Fun as it might be to take it out of context, at least they're not telling people to disable IPv6 entirely (like some organizations still are).

      Jima

"This article describes step-by-step instructions for mitigating
issues you may have connecting to the Internet, or certain websites,
on World IPv6 Day (June 8, 2011).
The following Fix it solution will _resolve_ the issue by configuring
your computer to prefer IPv4, instead of IPv6."

[Insert Nelson Muntz laugh here]

World <anything> day is a sure-shot bet win at an anti-climax, and an industry failure and waste of investment and publicity campaign.

Andrew

No kidding. We wouldn't want to raise public awareness of IPv6 or anything. That might take it out of the realm of geeky plaything. :frowning:

      Jima

Got a better idea? Some of us have been running IPv6 since 1998 and this is
still the closest thing to getting people motivated to switch we've seen this
century.

And I doubt it will be a *total* failure - even if a lot of things unexpectedly
break, the post-mortems will of value. In fact, the cynic in me says the
post-mortems are what's really driving this whole event. :wink:

They need to fix the typo. You vs Your. :slight_smile:

Mark

Your ready for World IPv6 Day, and have nothing to worry about.

You also are lucky enough to have IPv6 connectivity along with IPv4
- meaning you have two ways to connect to the Internet!

+1

IPv6 day is already a huge success since it has brought technology
competitors like Facebook, Bing, Google, Yahoo, Akamai, Limelight and
many others all together to help move this VERY IMPORTANT rock up the
hill.

The ideal state of IPv6 day is that the Internet keeps working with
"no news" from a network operator perspective ... aside from a very
slight bump in IPv6 traffic (we still have edge IPv6 reach issues in
the Internet (understatement)... but there is progress there too (true
statement)).

If you have not been to the website, you should go and have a look.
This list should have a high level of interest in the success and IPv6
day.... since most of us get pay checks based on the continued growth
and success of this here network of networks.

http://www.worldipv6day.org/

And, in case you have not seen a hockey stick lately http://v6asns.ripe.net/v/6

Cameron

It provides a handy space to comment at the bottom.

Perhaps people here would like to let M$ know that it would be preferable
to provide pointers to real workable IPv6 connectivity solutions rather than
merely hotwire the system to temporarily bypass IPv6 in favor of IPv4.

That's the path I chose.

Owen

In that case can anyone explain why the number of IPv4 *only* systems is increasing rather than decreasing:
http://server8.test-ipv6.com/stats.html

I would have expected the green+azure areas in those graphs to have increased in the past half year but counter-intutitively, it appears that IPv4 only usage is increasing.

-Hank

I think the graph is becoming more reflective of the real world as the test site gets more exposure.

Pure speculation here, but these stats that you refer to are not a
scientifically representative sample of the internet at large, this
sample is a self selecting group of people who have chosen to run an
ipv6 test. These people who run the test, likely know what IPv6 is
and therefore are more likely to have IPv6 enabled.

As world ipv6 day gets more general press coverage, the graph is
bending more towards a more realistic sample of the internet ... which
does not usually have IPv6 access.

Assuming Google users represent the general internet, this is the
graph that displays what you are likely looking for

http://www.google.com/intl/en/ipv6/statistics/

Cameron

This data is probably a better reference regarding ipv6 traffic growth
http://www.ams-ix.net/sflow-stats/ipv6/

cb

Which is good as it is showing 6to4 fixes being deployed to preference
IPv4 over 6to4 and a strong growth in IPv6 native.

....>

Pure speculation here, but these stats that you refer to are not a
scientifically representative sample of the internet at large, this
sample is a self selecting group of people who have chosen to run an
ipv6 test.

Commonly called sample bias. Good statistical analysis will
address (and adjust for) such bias, but that can be (very) hard
work. As with all the "CNN polls", there should be a disclaimer
on such sites that say "this is not a scientific poll", but that
would ruin the fun.....

Gary

It provides a handy space to comment at the bottom.

Perhaps people here would like to let M$ know that it would be preferable
to provide pointers to real workable IPv6 connectivity solutions rather than
merely hotwire the system to temporarily bypass IPv6 in favor of IPv4.

That's the path I chose.

I guess you're all missing the point here. I've never agreed too much
with M$, but what they're doing is right. IPv6 stacks are quite mature
these days but IPv6 connectivity can be broken due to incorrectly
implemented networks / tunnels (see:
http://ripe61.ripe.net/presentations/223-World_IPv6_day.pdf).

For those clients there is no option other than disabling IPv6.
Hopefully the service providers & network admins get to identify and
fix issues. This problem is not client OS specific. I'm all for M$
bashing, but not for this reason.

-Jaidev

It provides a handy space to comment at the bottom.

Perhaps people here would like to let M$ know that it would be preferable
to provide pointers to real workable IPv6 connectivity solutions rather than
merely hotwire the system to temporarily bypass IPv6 in favor of IPv4.

That's the path I chose.

I guess you're all missing the point here. I've never agreed too much
with M$, but what they're doing is right. IPv6 stacks are quite mature
these days but IPv6 connectivity can be broken due to incorrectly
implemented networks / tunnels (see:
http://ripe61.ripe.net/presentations/223-World_IPv6_day.pdf).

I'm not missing the point, just suggesting that it would be better if
Micr0$0ft were part of the solution instead of just hotwiring past
the problem.

For those clients there is no option other than disabling IPv6.

No, there is the option of troubleshooting why IPv6 doesn't work for
them and working to correct it.

Hopefully the service providers & network admins get to identify and
fix issues. This problem is not client OS specific. I'm all for M$
bashing, but not for this reason.

I didn't see where in the M$ propaganda it suggested calling your ISP
or network admin to have them help you fix the issue, so, I don't see
how what they are proposing has any hope of enabling this.

Owen

and your solution is what?

-Dan