Yet more hijacked space? - deru.net

Since were on the topic of hijacked ipspace, i find myself wondering
about deru.net

"Deru, the name you can trust, from people you can trust." - Quoted from
www.deru.net

Ok, so this is the name you can trust, from the people you can trust,
right? Well then, why would it appear that Deru.net, the local ISP
you can trust is using hijacked ip space?

It would appear as if Deru.net is using:

www.deru.net has address 140.99.0.15

My handy dandy whois tool tells me this range belongs to:

OrgName: Datability Software Systems, Inc.
OrgID: DERU
Address: 14982 N 83rd PL Ste 201
City: Scottsdale
StateProv: AZ
PostalCode: 85260
Country: US

NetRange: 140.99.0.0 - 140.99.255.255
CIDR: 140.99.0.0/16
NetName: DSS1
NetHandle: NET-140-99-0-0-1
Parent: NET-140-0-0-0-0
NetType: Direct Allocation
NameServer: NS1.DERU.NET
NameServer: NS2.DERU.NET
Comment:
RegDate: 1990-04-12
Updated: 2001-08-01

TechHandle: DW19-ARIN
TechName: Wayrynen, Darin
TechPhone: +1-480-998-7237
TechEmail: darin@deru.net

Before this network was modified it contained:

140.99.0.0 Datability Software Systems, Inc. NET-DSS1 322 Eighth Avenue
New York, NY 10001 US

140.99.0.0 C DSS1
Rupp, Richard L. (RLP39) rich@PLUTO.DSS.COM
   (201) 438-2400

Handy dandy route-server tells us:

route-server.cw.net>sh ip bgp 140.99.0.0 255.255.0.0 l
BGP table version is 2788023425, local router ID is 209.1.220.234
Status codes: s suppressed, d damped, h history, * valid, > best, i -
internal
Origin codes: i - IGP, e - EGP, ? - incomplete

   Network Next Hop Metric LocPrf Weight Path
*>i140.99.0.0 208.172.146.30 100 0 1239 11588
2 7136 i
* i 208.172.146.29 100 0 1239 11588
2 7136 i
*>i140.99.96.0/19 208.172.146.30 100 0 1239 11588
2 i
* i 208.172.146.29 100 0 1239 11588
2 i
* i140.99.120.0/22 208.172.146.29 100 0 1239 11588
2 26978 i
*>i 208.172.146.30 100 0 1239 11588
2 26978 i
route-server.cw.net>

And once again, handy dandy whois tool tells us:

OrgName: Only Networking Inc. (ONLY2-DOM)
OrgID: ONIO
Address: 3443 North Central, 17th Floor
City: Phoenix
StateProv: AZ
PostalCode: 85013
Country: US

ASNumber: 7136
ASName: ONLY
ASHandle: AS7136
Comment:
RegDate: 1996-09-16
Updated: 1996-09-16

TechHandle: DW19-ARIN
TechName: Wayrynen, Darin
TechPhone: +1-480-998-7237
TechEmail: darin@deru.net

Im finding it odd that not a single thing, other than the POC email for
a questionable /16 and the ASN announcing questionable /16 has anything
to do with deru.net.

Also, my friend google tells me this:

http://216.239.57.100/search?q=cache:aHJS20Er5m0C:members.aol.com/karima4483/resume_c.html+"Datability+Software+Systems,
+Inc.%22&hl=en&ie=UTF-8

smlnk: http://smlnk.com/?21ZQK6FP

So it would appear that Datability Software Systems, Inc. was located
in Natick, Mass, and became Penril Datability Networks

http://216.239.37.100/search?q=cache:87PPbzXONd0C:isdn.modemhelp.net/p/penrildatabilitynetworks.shtml+Penril+Datability+Networks+&hl=en&ie=UTF-
8

smlnk:http://smlnk.com/?08DJKDW3

It now appears that Penril Datability Networks was split up, with thier
assets being aquired by Bay Networks, and Access Beyond.

http://216.239.33.100/search?q=cache:jSOOHJ6s9fkC:www.cgraphix.com/39_detail_clients.html+Access+Beyond+%2BPenril&hl=en&ie=UTF-
8

smlnk: http://smlnk.com/?UHXEPYDC

That leaves us with Access Beyond, a manufacturer of remote access telecom
products. And whose website is now owned by a cybersquatter.

Now the question at hand is, at which point did this hardware company
become Deru.net, the Internet Service Provider you can trust? was this
before, or after Penril Datability Networks Inc/Bay Networks/Access Beyond.?

Did everyone decide to move to arizona and start an ISP? or is this just
another example of IP hijacking that we all find ourselves taking a look
at.

Can deru.net provide documents that say they bought or were aquired by
Datability Software Systems, Inc/Penril Datability Networks/Bay Networks/Access
Beyond.?

There are other companies using this address space (eldosales.com) but
they dont have the appearance of owning a possibly hijacked /16

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Is it any more unusual than a tiny ISP in originally headquartered
in Phoenix Arizona moving to Massachusetts and taking over AS Number 1
previously registered to BBN, now registered to Genuity? Or who would
believe a multi-billion dollar corporation, Worldcom moving its
headquarters from Mississippi to Virginia and changing its name to MCI?
Why is MCI.COM registered to an address in Richardson Texas instead of
MCI's world headquarters in Virginia? And speaking about MCI, remember
InternetMCI's ASN 3561. According to Arin 3561 is registered to an
address in Carey North Carolina to some outfit called Cable & Wireless.
But everyone knows that Cable & Wireless is really a UK firm; so isn't it
suspicious that InternetMCI's ASN is now registered to an address in
Carey North Carolina?

The world changes, but registry information isn't always kept up to date.
Companies often list the address of post office box for billing contacts,
or perhaps an address of a subsidary such as the NOC or their legal
department instead of their world headquarters.

I can create a conspiracy theory for almost any old network block or asn
on the Internet. Proving beyond a reasonable doubt seems to be impossible.
In the early days "proof" often wasn't more than a phone call or an email.
In the pre-CIDR days you didn't need to be a big company to get either an
ASN or a Class B network. I don't have me e-mailbox from 14 years ago,
so I would have a hard time proving something from that long ago.

But it doesn't answer the basic questions. How do you tell the difference
between a legitimate change and an illegitmate change? If ARIN makes it
extremely difficult to update registry records, the records will get even
more out of date. On the other hand if ARIN makes it too easy to update
registry records, the wrong people can make unauthorized changes.

Thus spake arincop@hushmail.com

"Deru, the name you can trust, from people you can trust." - Quoted from
www.deru.net

Ok, so this is the name you can trust, from the people you can trust,
right? Well then, why would it appear that Deru.net, the local ISP you
can trust is using hijacked ip space?

A wise man once told me the clearest sign you can't trust someone is when
they insist that you can. Someone with a clear conscience doesn't use
expressions like "trust me", "honestly", or "to tell the truth".

S

Stephen Sprunk "God does not play dice." --Albert Einstein
CCIE #3723 "God is an inveterate gambler, and He throws the
K5SSS dice at every possible opportunity." --Stephen Hawking