Will your cisco have the FBI's IOS?

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Easier Internet Wiretaps Sought
Justice Dept., FBI Want Consumers To Pay the Cost

By Dan Eggen and Jonathan Krim
Washington Post Staff Writers
Saturday, March 13, 2004; Page A01

The Justice Department wants to significantly expand the
government's ability to monitor online traffic, proposing that
providers of high-speed Internet service should be forced to grant
easier access for FBI wiretaps and other electronic surveillance,
according to documents and government officials.

A petition filed this week with the Federal Communications
Commission also suggests that consumers should be required to
foot the bill.

{meaning guess who does their work?}

....

Justice Department lawyers argue in a 75-page FCC petition that
Internet broadband and online telephone providers should be treated
the same as traditional telephone companies, which are required
by law to provide access for wiretaps and other monitoring of
voice communications. The law enforcement agencies complain that
many providers do not comply with existing wiretap rules and that
rapidly changing technology is limiting the government's ability
to track terrorists and other threats.

They are asking the FCC to curtail its usual review process to
rapidly implement the proposed changes. The FBI views the petition
as narrowly crafted and aimed only at making sure that terrorist
and criminal suspects are not able to evade monitoring because
of the type of telephone communications they use, according to
a federal law enforcement official who spoke on the condition
of anonymity.

{......}

{It sounds to me like this means:

  Tear out backbone

  Move MAE-East, West and whatever into the
  Jill Edgar Hoover Building.

  Pay them rent for the Colo space...

YMMV}

David,

I believe that CALEA versions of IOS are already available on cisco.com. It
has a backdoor for any traffic originating from dhs.gov address space. :wink:

C.

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Easier Internet Wiretaps Sought
Justice Dept., FBI Want Consumers To Pay the Cost

Not sure whos viewpoint this is, it reads like its the FBI's:

"The problem the FBI faces is that it cannot identify and break down information
that travels as packets of data over the Internet. Phone calls placed over the
Internet are changed from voice signals into data packets that look much like
other data packets that contain e-mail or instructions for browsing the
Internet"

Erm no, phone calls on the internet use the same data structure as they do on
the phone network, the difference is in the transport. Kinda worrying they want
to pass a law but dont know why they want it.

Steve

They have access into the TDM network at present.
Now they want VoIP.

If law enforcement was satisified with the solutions already available, I
don't think they would have spent the time creating this filing. It's
probably a good idea for anyone associated in the Internet industry to
read the filing because it may be requesting the FCC change definitions
of who is covered and what they must do. Even if you thought CALEA didn't
apply to you for the last 10 years; you might find out after this you will
be required to provide complete CALEA capabilities. The requested
"capabilities" may be more than are currently available from vendors.

Do you know what is the difference between "call-identifying information"
and "communications-identifying information"? They both have the intials
CII. What is the difference between the phone number of a fax machine and
the from/to lines on the cover page of the fax?

This whole thing makes me think that we should be encouraging VOIP traffic
to run over IPSEC so we can claim we don't know what it is.

Owen

Owen,

That sounds like an invitation to have the "Jack Booted Thugs" barbeque your
home a'la Branch Davidian compound style.

:slight_smile:
Christopher J. Wolff, VP CIO
Broadband Laboratories, Inc.
http://www.bblabs.com

This is part of a law enforcement wishlist which has been around for a
long time (See Magic Lantern, Clipper Chip et. al. for examples).

What is desired here is a system by which all communications
originating/or terminating at $DESIGNATED_TARGET can be intercepted with
no intervention by and/or knowledge of the carrier hence ensuring the
security of the investigation.

The trouble with a system like this is that like all backdoors it can be
exploited by non-legitimate users but law enforcement personnel tend to
have a very limited understanding of technology and communications tech
especially since to the majority of LEA's AOL == Internet many local LEA's
their only internet access is AOL.

I've been asked how do you track down all $NET_MISCREANTS in town. I told
the chief that it requires good old fashioned police work. The net is not
magic and is decentralized. But what is wanted is a centralized place
where with the press of a button you can see who Joe Smith has been
talking to, sending email to and what web pages he is looking at to make
investigations easy from a civil liberties standpoint that is a _bad_
thing human nature being what it is.

It is our job as members of the NANOG community to educate our politicians
and police so that we do not end up living in a system which would be the
envy of the Stasi and the Soviet era KGB

                            Scott C. McGrath

What is desired here is a system by which all communications
originating/or terminating at $DESIGNATED_TARGET can be intercepted with
no intervention by and/or knowledge of the carrier hence ensuring the
security of the investigation.

I don't think that is correct. Read the Justice Department's filing.

With correct legal authorization, law enforcement already has access to
any electronic communications through a carrier.

From the Washington Post:

  The Justice Department wants to significantly expand the government's
  ability to monitor online traffic, proposing that providers of high-speed
  Internet service should be forced to grant easier access for FBI
  wiretaps and other electronic surveillance, according to documents and
  government officials.

  A petition filed this week with the Federal Communications Commission
  also suggests that consumers should be required to foot the bill.

Is this a modem tax by another name. Should every ISP add a fee to their
subscriber's bill to pay for it?

Read the filing.

I have read the filing it's another step down the road. True all comms
are subject to intercept _already_ what is desired is a way to _easily_
perform the intercept and the easily part is the kicker. Some things
should be hard especially where civil rights are involved.

See all the light and noise about the MATRIX system which is simply a
means of collecting and indexing information which is already available to
LEA's.

However MATRIX removes the step of asking the provider for information
on a individual basis hence law abiding people are now in the position of
having their information searched without the oversight of the judicial
system in "fishing expeditions".

Human nature being what it is the act of having to ask a judge to grant
access to the information keeps honest people honest and judges almost
never deny this type of request. In a perfect world we would not need
locks on our doors, passwords for our systems. In situations like this
who watches the watchers?. Currently a judge does in the future...

                            Scott C. McGrath

Can someone from Wiltel contact me offlist please.

Brian Boles
brianb@powerpulse.cc