On Fri, 8 Nov 1996 19:20:40 -0800 (PST)
Ed Morin <edm@halcyon.com> alleged:
Well, sure, but why should I _have_ to? I thought we, in part, pay
the big bucks for routers that are supposed to figure some of this
stuff out on their own without having to "band-aid" things with AS
path manipulations, etc.
Try reading the manual. How is the router supposed to know what
you want to do. BGP4 knows nothing of link speeds, and I hope
it never does, the instabilities it could cause are frightening.
I don't think the people who came up with BGP4 ever expected to
see what some people do with their router configs.
Regards,
Neil.
Look, I can do a "show interface" on any interface and see what speed
it's running at and if it's dropping packets. If BGP hears a route
on an interface that isn't dropping packets shouldn't _that_ route
be considered "best" all other things being equal (hop counts and
all)? You can't tell me the router doesn't know this information
because _I_ get the information from the router itself!!
I understand about route instabilities, etc. All I'm talking about
here is a better "tie breaker" than ordinate numbers of IP addresses.
Try reading the manual. How is the router supposed to know what
Well, until _somebody_ writes the definitive "Nutshell" book we
all know just how useful the "FM" is to "RT".
Neil J. McRae. Alive and Kicking. E A S Y N E T G R O U P P L C
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Ed Morin
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Professional Internet Services
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In article <hot.mailing-lists.nanog-Pine.ULT.3.95.961109093416.14900C-100000@halcyon.halcyon.com>,
Try reading the manual. How is the router supposed to know what
Well, until _somebody_ writes the definitive "Nutshell" book we
all know just how useful the "FM" is to "RT".
I personally have found the information on the website/cdrom to be very
complete. The case studies proved invaluable while I was learning various
things. The BGP case study is incredible -- if you read it after reading
a theoretical text on BGP then you'll be set for configuring networks with
a small number of borders. There's a draft somewhere too that talks about
common bgp configurations.
Granted it probably takes several hours of using the manuals before
you get a feel for how they're laid out and where to go for things.
That layout changes between 11.0 and 11.1 which can be annoying. But
it's very complete. I've only ever dealt with ip, atalk and bridging
however, maybe the experience in the other protocols is different.
Do you honestly believe that a book with "nutshell" in the title is
going to be more definitive than the CDROM documentation? It would
weight twenty pounds. And also on this nutshell thread -- I think that
people may be wishing for "IOS IP configuration in a nutshell". There's
no way a single book could do justice to all the protocols IOS deals with.
Dean
I don't think the people who came up with BGP4 ever expected to
see what some people do with their router configs.
Don't bet on that. 
Tony