[whoisdatabase@hotmail.com: Re: Network Solutions Lists] (fwd)

The problem is that it is and has to be (reasonably) public information.
For any restriction that could be put in place, someone will certainly
write a programatic workaround. This specific mailing is in violation
of qual.net's AUP III.B.3....so gripe to them. And support Smith.
..."an Opt-In list of".......Get Real!
-ls- (LS11)

Forwarded message from James Rishaw <jamie@dilbert.ais.net>

Ugh!

There's *got* to be a way to keep people from walking the database...

write a programatic workaround. This specific mailing is in violation
of qual.net's AUP III.B.3....so gripe to them. And support Smith.
..."an Opt-In list of".......Get Real!
-ls- (LS11)

Complain to EZnet (looks like they host the website) and e-i too (e-i
has an open relay with a broken Sun implementation of Sendmail that doesn't
stamp the IP address of the originating machine.)

I have to agree with Larry. You need to have public access to the database...
it's a double edged sword. I *would* let Network Solutions know about this
geek, since said geek seems to be attempting to leverage the NetSol name
for his own financial gain.

Content-Description: Forwarded message from whoisdatabase@hotmail.com

From: whoisdatabase@hotmail.com
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1998 22:33:48 GMT
To: internicwhois@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: Network Solutions Lists

We can show you how to generate so much traffic,
that it could possibly CRASH your ISP's server!
That's right!

Cool. Initiate a DoS attack on your own web server. :smiley:

Morons... (the spammers, not the people complaining :slight_smile:

The problem is that it is and has to be (reasonably) public information.
For any restriction that could be put in place, someone will certainly
write a programatic workaround. This specific mailing is in violation
of qual.net's AUP III.B.3....so gripe to them. And support Smith.
..."an Opt-In list of".......Get Real!
-ls- (LS11)

I just noticed on the last catalog I got from Dell in the mail, that they
are walking the Database too. Because it is addressed to a fantasy name
I used for one of my domains.

>>>>> Forwarded message from James Rishaw <jamie@dilbert.ais.net>

Ugh!

There's *got* to be a way to keep people from walking the database...

--
jamie rishaw (efnet:gavroche) American Information Systems, Inc.
jamie at ais dot net infrastructure engineering

         "I will NOT go to a party with a version number." -davidr

Content-Description: Forwarded message from whoisdatabase@hotmail.com

Complain to EZnet (looks like they host the website) and e-i too (e-i
has an open relay with a broken Sun implementation of Sendmail that doesn't
stamp the IP address of the originating machine.)

Note that is EZnet, not enterzone.net:

[root@Overkill /]# traceroute www.targetedlists.com
traceroute: Warning: Multiple interfaces found; using 209.41.244.2 @ eth0
traceroute to redirect.vdirect.com (208.157.147.83), 30 hops max, 40 byte
packets
1 border-core0-eth1.Columbus.EnterZone.Net (209.41.244.1) 0.617 ms
0.523 ms 0.455 ms
2 core1-eth0-ENTERZONE.Columbus.fnsi.net (209.115.127.21) 1.028 ms
0.910 ms 0.813 ms
3 border1-atm6.Chicago.fnsi.net (209.115.127.226) 6.812 ms 8.143 ms
7.838 ms
4 aads.mci.net (198.32.130.12) 491.237 ms 46.901 ms 26.091 ms
5 aads.mci.net (198.32.130.12) 33.045 ms 21.640 ms 25.143 ms
6 core3-hssi1-0.WillowSprings.cw.net (204.70.1.197) 14.381 ms 15.987 ms
15.976 ms
7 core1.WestOrange.cw.net (204.70.4.181) 30.023 ms 32.887 ms 32.003 ms
8 border4-fddi-0.WestOrange.cw.net (204.70.64.35) 31.930 ms 32.649 ms
32.158 ms
9 ez-net-inc.WestOrange.cw.net (204.70.68.14) 75.019 ms 48.042 ms
54.948 ms
10 208.157.147.83 (208.157.147.83) 48.145 ms 48.798 ms 47.213 ms

Makes you wonder if the guy who was going to sell the CD's of the
whois database might have had some of them make it to market, either
before or after they shut down. Didn't NetSol say they took measures
to keep people from sequentially mining the database?

- -
James D. Wilson

- -----Original Message-----

The problem is that it is and has to be (reasonably) public

information.

For any restriction that could be put in place, someone will

certainly

write a programatic workaround. This specific mailing is in

violation

of qual.net's AUP III.B.3....so gripe to them. And support Smith.
..."an Opt-In list of".......Get Real!
-ls- (LS11)

I just noticed on the last catalog I got from Dell in the mail, that
they
are walking the Database too. Because it is addressed to a fantasy
name
I used for one of my domains.

Makes you wonder if the guy who was going to sell the CD's of the
whois database might have had some of them make it to market, either
before or after they shut down.

  There are other folks selling that database also, but they
  aren't quite as blatant about it.

Didn't NetSol say they took measures
to keep people from sequentially mining the database?

  They said they did. I haven't tried mining it to check.