Whatever happened to intelligence in the applicattion [Was: Re: Th e Qos PipeDream]

As I wrote in a later message, that's more along the
lines of what I was talking about. :slight_smile:


- ferg

I think you just tossed a red herring into the discussion. :slight_smile:

I would suggest that a semi-intelligent playback bufferring scheme
in the VoIP application, plus a 'semi-lossless' link, would be just
fine. :wink:

Any competent VoIP application/device developer will use an adaptive jitter
buffer. It's really not that tough, and most apps/devices have them today
because working products sell better than non-working ones.

My VoIP phone (full disclosure: I work for the vendor) operates just fine at
home over a DSL line, across four ISPs, through two NATs, and to a gateway
in Canada. The voice gets a little choppy when a 10MB powerpoint hits my
Inbox (sadly, several times per day), but it self-corrects after a couple

Doesn't anyone really remember the whole smart-v.-stupid network
analogy? Not meaning to start a flame war here, but trying to stick
all of the intelligence back into the network is not exactly a win-win

I think you'll get further by arguing that intelligent networks with small
pipes cost more to maintain than dumb networks with fat pipes. Less likely
to induce sleep in your bean-counters.


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