What is SPAM? - was Re: Legislative Relief - was Re: Motion...

> I don't think we really want any more laws that criminalize ill defined
> acts.

Agreed. Until the net community defines what is spam and other unacceptable
messaging, we have no foundation to build on. Can anyone define concisely
what exactly is 'spam' ? Or this this possible?

It is a meat-like substance which is delivered in a tin can. It can be quite
good for breakfast with eggs if you can stand the grease content.

:wink: Sorry, couldn't resist.

spam: Any posting which contains an advertisement of a product.
posting: Any peice of electronic material found either in a UseNet NewsGroup,
    public mailing list (listserv), or a private mailing list.

I really don't see what the big deal is in all this.

A few years back, junk faxes reigned. People eventually found out that these
junk faxes didn't make them any money, and were a waste of time, both in
sending them, and in taking phone calls from disgruntled recipients. I suspect
that "spamming" will die out eventually as well.

I think the current thread of people saying they are making lots of MONEY off
these things are largely exaggerated. The reputation of many of these
businesses is falling off the deep end. Being considered a rude and
inconsiderate business is, generally speaking, not good for business.
You shouldn't have to explain basic concepts like these to people. Perhaps
more documentation regarding what is "rude" and what is "not rude" could
be helpful, IF businesses actually read it, however, this will not prevent
JoeSchmoe advertising agency from raping and pillaging unsuspecting
businesses for lots of cash to spam for them.

Dave

spam: Any posting which contains an advertisement of a product.
posting: Any peice of electronic material found either in a UseNet NewsGroup,
  public mailing list (listserv), or a private mailing list.

I really don't see what the big deal is in all this.

and tags that message with...

Dave Siegel President, RTD Systems & Networking, Inc.
(520)623-9663 Systems Consultant -- Unix, LANs, WANs, Cisco
dsiegel@rtd.com User Tracking & Acctg -- "Written by an ISP,
http://www.rtd.com/ for an ISP."

Hmm, that looks like an advertisement to me, Dave.

Wanna try again? Or did you put the cuffs on?

I think (hope?) we're talking about something a bit more egregious
than what you've just described.

Smoked Pork And Ham

heh heh.. the other winter i got real sick eating a whole can of it when
i got snowed in.. (*bleargh*)

- e.a./sprint dns-admin

Smoked Pork And Ham

I thought it was Scientifically Processed Animal Matter

More appropriately,

Someone Poor At Marketing
Stupid Posts Aimed Maliciously

...something like that. :slight_smile:

Carl

Can this discussion be re-directed back to com-priv where (IMHO) it belongs?

Len

Is every email you send then a spam since it contains an ad for UTA? I
don't think it is, but it is according to your definitions. IMHO, a bad
definition. I am more favorable to the one that news.admin.* uses where
anything which is posted to over X number of groups is spam (or velveeta
if it follows a slightly different rule). SPAM should not be content
based. If I sent out a copy of the bible to every single user on the
internet (quite a feat to get the address list), I would consider that a
spam, and I need not be advertising any product. Hell, if I sent
everyone on the internet the letter "a" it would probably crash a few
machines. So, what's the definition?

Justin Newton * You have to change just to stay caught up.
Vice President/ *
System Administrator *
Digital Gateway Systems *