Funny, but in my honest opinion, unprofessional. Poor PR.
You want 1930s telecom, you got it. 
Yes, I know telephone was available then.
Got your attention. Made a statement. Good for them.
Scott Fisher,
I think Verizon's statement was brilliant, and entirely appropriate. Some people are going to have a hard time discovering that being in favor of Obama's version of "net neutrality"... will soon be just about as cool as having supported SOPA.
btw - does anyone know if that thick book of regulations, you know... those hundreds of pages we weren't allowed to see before the vote... anyone know if that is available to the public now? If so, where?
Rob McEwen
"Blah blah politics". This is Verizon whining. plain and simple.
They won't be available for days, weeks, months, etc. After the vote, they are subject to editorial review... which isn't so much editorial as whatever the hell they want. They could just be literally adding commas and capitalizing letters to completely changing the language of something.
Whenever that day comes...
I'm curious if the changes will effect the small ISPs concerning things like CALEA.
On the other hand, I hope they ban the ability to pay for ESPN3 at an ISP level. I'm tired of the complaints from ISPs who can't get it and I'm tired of paying a portion of other people's access to it.
Jack
I think Verizon's statement was brilliant, and entirely appropriate. Some
people are going to have a hard time discovering that being in favor of
Obama's version of "net neutrality"... will soon be just about as cool as
having supported SOPA.
Morse code is just a different binary encoding.
Also, commercial AM broadcasting started in the 20s, a couple decades past Marconi.
Just think of all that innovation and investment that's been "stifled" over the last 50 years under Title II.
Anyone remember having to "rent" their rotary phones from AT&T?
-Mike.
Just think of all that innovation and investment that's been "stifled"
over the last 50 years under Title II.
Anyone remember having to "rent" their rotary phones from AT&T?
Yes, I am that old. You were not allowed to connect a phone of your own.
Bob Evans
CTO
Bob Evans wrote:
Just think of all that innovation and investment that's been "stifled"
over the last 50 years under Title II.
Anyone remember having to "rent" their rotary phones from AT&T?Yes, I am that old. You were not allowed to connect a phone of your own.
Let's also remember that it was regulatory action that enabled us to connect modems and phones to AT&T's network. (Can you say "Carterphone" decision) And it was Title II regulation, and the Computer Inquiries, that allowed the Internet to be assembled from circuits leased from AT&T long lines.
Miles Fidelman
I am not arguing that they have a valid complaint. I just think their
method of doing so is a bit childish. It does get the point across,
just not in the method I respect. Just my opinion though.
I'd think they'd be better off with some jujitsu, along the lines of:
"We've always practiced network neutrality, not like some of our competitors, this won't effect us at all and may enforce some good business practices on others"
(As far as I can tell, Verizon has not played games with favoring their own content - for all intents and purposes, they operate FIOS as a common carrier - no funny throttling, no usage caps, etc.)
I'm surprised they weren't a bit more vocal on the OTHER FCC decision of the day - preempting some state restrictions on municipal broadband builds - Verizon has been very active in pushing state laws to kill muni networks (even in places where they have no intention of building out).
Miles Fidelman
Scott Fisher wrote:
The funniest thing about Verizon complaining about Title II, is that they
used Title II to roll out their FIOS FTTP.
I really am unsure of what they expected the outcome to be, and further
proves the point of how big of a mess ISP¹s in this country are.
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It was in the FCC story: the rules (that thick book) will be published
AFTER all the Commissoners have had a chance to write their
pair-o-penny's worth and include their screeds with said publication.
In other words, we have a month or two of quiet before the fur really
starts to fly.
OK. The Morse code I knew about, from news stories. What I didn't know
is that the "translation" would be PDF of 1930s-style typewritten
transcription on an old Underwood Portable that had seen much, much
better days.
Someone at Verizon is trying to make lemonade out of what they perceive
as bitter, bitter lemons...
But that didn't stop most of us old timers on this list. The first
"digital" circuit that I played with as a kid was an old Strowger switch
pulled from a junk yard.
The first indications of any changes would be Cisco and Juniper
announcing CALEA products in their low- and mid-line network products.
Or there may be some near-startups that announce bolt-on network
products to provide CALEA capability for those people who don't have
deep pockets for new gear.
I still have a WeCo desk set that is marked "Bell System Property / Not
For Sale"
Carterfone, anyone?
Until those hundreds of pages are made public, how can anyone possibly know if that if that is even a truthful statement? Furthermore, what they SAY they intend to do with that authority... and what they COULD possibly do with such authority in the not-too-distant future... might be frighteningly different.
FOR EXAMPLE... can I borrow your credit card? I'm just going to lock it in my safe and not use it until the next time we meet up again? (what I say I will do with it.. and what I COULD do with your credit card... could be frighteningly different!)
<sarcasm>But since we they did such a great job rolling out Obamacare with no "unintended consequences", I'm sure their promises and good intentions for their use of the authority over the packets moving across PRIVATELY-OWNED internet infrastructure... that they just voted themselves... will be just peachy, right?</sarcasm>
BTW - you should see my seashell collection... I keep it spread thoughout all the beaches of the entire world. Yesterday, I voted myself ownership over all of them.