US transit providers with slightly better than average International connectivity?

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Howdy, I know with the trans-atlantic and trans-pacific connectivity being what it is these days that getting reliable (i.e. low latency < 200, low packet loss < 5% total round-trip) to countries such as AE and others is kind of a “shot in the dark”. However, I wanted to ping the list and see if anyone has had ‘better luck/worse luck’ with particular transit providers. We’re currently utilizing Time Warner Telecom, Level3, and Global Crossing as our transit partners and we’re shopping for a fourth at this time, we would really like to find a transit provider with ‘better’ international presence.

Any suggestions based on experience?

Thanks,

-Drew

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Drew Weaver wrote:

Howdy, I know with the trans-atlantic and trans-pacific connectivity being what it is these days that getting reliable (i.e. low latency < 200, low packet loss < 5% total round-trip) to countries such as AE and others is kind of a �shot in the dark�. However, I wanted to ping the list and see if anyone has had �better luck/worse luck� with particular transit providers. We�re currently utilizing Time Warner Telecom, Level3, and Global Crossing as our transit partners and we�re shopping for a fourth at this time, we would really like to find a transit provider with �better� international presence.

Any suggestions based on experience?

Thanks,

-Drew

As a test point let's try: 212.58.224.131
That's the BBC. Posting traceroutes would be the best. Here is mine from internap:
core1.t6-1-bbnet1.sje.pnap.net 0.0% 2895 2.1 21.3 1.9 1671. 101.6
xe-1-3.r02.snjsca04.us.bb.gin.ntt.net 1.7% 2895 2.1 25.7 2.0 1301. 92.6
xe-1-2.r03.snjsca04.us.bb.gin.ntt.net 0.8% 2895 2.2 25.5 2.0 1764. 108.7
sjo-bb1-link.telia.net 0.0% 2895 2.3 15.3 2.1 1680. 109.5
nyk-bb1-link.telia.net 0.2% 2895 73.8 86.1 73.7 1596. 101.4
ldn-bb1-pos7-1-0.telia.net 0.0% 2895 143.1 155.5 141.8 1551. 100.4
ldn-bb1-link.telia.net
9. ldn-b1-pos3-0.telia.net 0.0% 2895 144.9 163.2 141.8 1470. 99.8
ldn-b1-link.telia.net
10. siemens-118436-ldn-b1.c.telia.net 0.0% 2895 144.8 165.2 141.9 1470. 106.4
11. 212.58.238.153 0.1% 2895 143.3 157.7 141.9 1386. 97.5
12. rdirwww-vip.thdo.bbc.co.uk 0.1% 2895 146.3 156.0 141.8 1636. 99.4

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Before we flame Sargun for posting useless non sense, I figured I
would throw my opinions in.

I have seen great international results with some of the carriers you
currently have, but if you are adding a fourth which areas are you
looking to benefit most? Transatlantic/transpacific? I would suggest
VZ Biz for both, but if you are focusing on transpacific routes PCCW,
NTT, and ANC offer great pacific routes. Transatlantic: Telia,
Interoute, or KPN Qwest (which may just be KPN now).

Good luck,
Josh

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Drew Weaver wrote:

How about to this IP?

62.150.200.10

From: Sargun Dhillon [mailto:sdhillon@decarta.com]
Sent: Monday, August 13, 2007 1:58 PM
To: Drew Weaver
Cc: 'nanog@merit.edu'
Subject: Re: US transit providers with slightly better than average International connectivity?

Drew Weaver wrote:
  

Howdy, I know with the trans-atlantic and trans-pacific connectivity
being what it is these days that getting reliable (i.e. low latency <
200, low packet loss < 5% total round-trip) to countries such as AE
and others is kind of a "shot in the dark". However, I wanted to ping
the list and see if anyone has had 'better luck/worse luck' with
particular transit providers. We're currently utilizing Time Warner
Telecom, Level3, and Global Crossing as our transit partners and we're
shopping for a fourth at this time, we would really like to find a
transit provider with 'better' international presence.

Any suggestions based on experience?

Thanks,

-Drew

As a test point let's try: 212.58.224.131
That's the BBC. Posting traceroutes would be the best. Here is mine from
internap:
core1.t6-1-bbnet1.sje.pnap.net 0.0% 2895 2.1 21.3 1.9 1671. 101.6
xe-1-3.r02.snjsca04.us.bb.gin.ntt.net 1.7% 2895 2.1 25.7 2.0 1301. 92.6
xe-1-2.r03.snjsca04.us.bb.gin.ntt.net 0.8% 2895 2.2 25.5 2.0 1764. 108.7
sjo-bb1-link.telia.net 0.0% 2895 2.3 15.3 2.1 1680. 109.5
nyk-bb1-link.telia.net 0.2% 2895 73.8 86.1 73.7 1596. 101.4
ldn-bb1-pos7-1-0.telia.net 0.0% 2895 143.1 155.5 141.8 1551. 100.4
ldn-bb1-link.telia.net
9. ldn-b1-pos3-0.telia.net 0.0% 2895 144.9 163.2 141.8 1470. 99.8
ldn-b1-link.telia.net
10. siemens-118436-ldn-b1.c.telia.net 0.0% 2895 144.8 165.2 141.9 1470.
106.4
11. 212.58.238.153 0.1% 2895 143.3 157.7 141.9 1386. 97.5
12. rdirwww-vip.thdo.bbc.co.uk 0.1% 2895 146.3 156.0 141.8 1636. 99.4

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Sargun Dhillon
deCarta
sdhillon@decarta.com
www.decarta.com

ATT: Success rate is 100 percent (5/5), round-trip min/avg/max = 200/203/208 ms
Global Crossing: 283 msec
SAVVIS: 245.461 msec
QWEST: min/avg/max = 312/313/317
UUNET: 379 msec
Level3: min/avg/median/max/mdev/stddev = 244/252.8/252/280/2.332/9.432 ms
I just used the looking glasses to check latency

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How about Telia or T Systems or PCCW?

All of those carriers are worthy of scrutiny.

Roderick S. Beck
Director of EMEA Sales
Hibernia Atlantic
1, Passage du Chantier, 75012 Paris
http://www.hiberniaatlantic.com
Wireless: 1-212-444-8829.
Landline: 33-1-4346-3209
AOL Messenger: GlobalBandwidth
rod.beck@hiberniaatlantic.com
rodbeck@erols.com
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