Trouble accessing www.nanog.org

Is anyone else having trouble accessing www.nanog.org. I can ping the site but don't get any response from HTTP requests.

works for me

I was seeing the same problem, but it seems to be working now.

Works for me as well :> I will check to see if there was some interruption
in service and report as warranted.

Betty

The brief problem in accessing www.nanog.org was due to numerous parallel
downloads of a large video file by a single source IP address. We have
no reason to believe it was malicious in intent, but the offender has been
blocked anyway.

Anyone from AS37986 around?

Duane W.

From: Wessels, Duane [mailto:dwessels@verisign.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 1:41 PM
Subject: Re: Trouble accessing www.nanog.org

The brief problem in accessing www.nanog.org was due to numerous
parallel
downloads of a large video file by a single source IP address. We have
no reason to believe it was malicious in intent, but the offender has
been
blocked anyway.

[WEG] In the lovely CGN future, not only will you see this type of behavior (multiple pulls from the same IP) all of the time, your response to block it would have taken tens or hundreds of users out of service simultaneously.
/troll

Not meant to fault your response, merely to point out yet one more way that CGN is likely to break things where an assumption of 1 IP = 1 user/host/network exists.

Wes George

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Hum... thats not how I read Duanes response at all.. I thought they blocked
  the (excessively) large video file from download... :slight_smile:

/bill

> > From: Wessels, Duane [mailto:dwessels@verisign.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 1:41 PM
> > Subject: Re: Trouble accessing www.nanog.org
> >
> >
> > The brief problem in accessing www.nanog.org was due to numerous
> > parallel
> > downloads of a large video file by a single source IP address. We have
> > no reason to believe it was malicious in intent, but the offender has
> > been
> > blocked anyway.
>
> [WEG] In the lovely CGN future, not only will you see this type of behavior (multiple pulls from the same IP) all of the time, your response to block it would have taken tens or hundreds of users out of service simultaneously.
> /troll
>
> Not meant to fault your response, merely to point out yet one more way that CGN is likely to break things where an assumption of 1 IP = 1 user/host/network exists.
>
> Wes George

  Hum... thats not how I read Duanes response at all.. I thought they blocked
  the (excessively) large video file from download... :slight_smile:

Depends of how we (are supposed to) interpret ``the offender has been
blocked anyway'' :slight_smile:

Cheers,
mh

There was a single source IP with 200+ open, active http connections to a single large media file. The single IP address was blocked. The file itself is still available on the site.

Mike

oh! so the 200 or so users on tulip.net that were downloading nanog
content were blocked, bummer :frowning:

/troll-mode=on

Err, while we're talking about video files and nanog, why is the video
content still served off (stored content I mean) nanog.org servers?
Why not use one of the many video serving services? some of which are
free even :slight_smile:
(that part's not a troll, a real question, even!)
-chris

There was a single source IP with 200+ open, active http connections to a single large media file. The single IP address was blocked. The file itself is still available on the site.

oh! so the 200 or so users on tulip.net that were downloading nanog
content were blocked, bummer :frowning:

/troll-mode=on

"And now if everyone would open their laptop and go to the following address…"

Err, while we're talking about video files and nanog, why is the video
content still served off (stored content I mean) nanog.org servers?
Why not use one of the many video serving services? some of which are
free even :slight_smile:
(that part's not a troll, a real question, even!)
-chris

The website work hasn't yet begun, so that is certainly still on the table. If you would like to volunteer some of your time…

Mike

I'm sure we could arrange some process to ingest videos to some form
of video-hosting-website... a videotubes site let's say.

who should I chat with?

<going offlist>

Mike

There is video hosting web sites on the intertubes?

Now where would those be found, I wonder. All I have ever seen is macro-streaming that is fraudulently labeled and advertised as video -- the worst being something called FlashVirus, which was written by a company called MacroVirus Media or something like that, and currently owned and flogged by Adobe along with their "Proprietary Document Format" (the latest versions of which boast UVTD technology -- Unstoppable Virus Transport and Distribution).

If the so-called video contains arbitrary executable code (or can run arbitrary executable code), or requires the use of a specific application to "play" (or infect the target), then it should not be described as "video". It is a streaming-macro.

Microsoft was the first OS vendor to add the "Execute Payload" header to IP which saved much time and effort in the distribution of malicious code via the internet. Unfortunatly, Adobe and several other vendors have patents on what is called the method of "Executable Data" and made Microsoft remove their wonderous invention under pain of patent lawsuits.

Of course, maybe whats meant is File hosting, where the File being hosted just happens to contain video data in standard data format (preferably a pure-data format that does not embed execution macros of any type).

:wink:

There is video hosting web sites on the intertubes?

Now where would those be found, I wonder. All I have ever seen is macro-streaming that is fraudulently labeled and advertised as video -- the worst being something called FlashVirus, which was written by a company called MacroVirus Media or something like that, and currently owned and flogged by Adobe along with their "Proprietary Document Format" (the latest versions of which boast UVTD technology -- Unstoppable Virus Transport and Distribution).

If the so-called video contains arbitrary executable code (or can run arbitrary executable code), or requires the use of a specific application to "play" (or infect the target), then it should not be described as "video". It is a streaming-macro.

Is H.264 Turing-complete ? Is Ogg-Vorbis ? (It seems like those are
the two reasonable open standard choices.))

Regards
Marshall

FWIW many of the big video hosting sites have this option now, and
many send an appropriate format for the browser being used:
http://www.youtube.com/html5
http://www.dailymotion.com/html5
http://vimeo.com/blog:268
http://blip.tv/html5/
http://www.archive.org/details/Html5DemoVideo

Alex

what about html5?