SPEWS?

I think this is just plain lazzines...there is no other way to view it.

So if you have a problem with someone dumping crap onto your network and
you've done everything you can to get the provider to stop the offender,
and they won't, what would you do then? Ignore it?

Along the lines of SPEWS is spambag.org
this idiot, because there is no other way to describe him, has blocked
SPRINTLINK netblocks in huge chunks, and then raves on like a lunatic on how
he justifies his actions (I wonder if it because he realizes what a lazy,
good for nothing "administrator" he is, since he seems so emotional in
letting you know that he is a "professional" administrator)

Yeah. I know the guy who runs spambag. He is very aggressive about
blocking. He also doesn't advertise that his block list is usable for
anyone besides himself. So what's your point?

Sprint has cleaned up a lot. They used to be absolutely horrible WRT
hosting spammers and abusers, which I'm sure is why spambag lists all of
Sprint.

I wouldn't use any list that lists an entire backbone, myself. But guess
what... it's his server and he is allowed to protect it in whichever way
he deems appropriate.

He doesnt realize that he only hurts himself....we where going to one of his
sites for a mail server solution, as soon as I read all his ravings I just
cruised somewhere else..to hell with him and his lazy administration skills.

Your choice.

I still believe the guy blocked sprintlink because he cant really
subnet...he has no concept of math, that and lazzines.

Nah, he's a decent programmer; I've used some of his stuff before. And a
*ton* of spam used to come from Sprint. Like I said... they've made good
efforts to clean up recently... but...

The fact remains that there are a number of people who run very aggressive
block lists (much more so than SPEWS). I can think of spambag and at least
one or two others. (xbl.selwerd.cx comes to mind.) None of these people
advertise that anyone else should use their lists. They're personal lists.
Read the spambag.org homepage and it states very clearly that it's a
personal list. SPEWS is a completely different animal, as I don't believe
it was ever meant to be a personal list; it was meant to be used by
others...

"Steven J. Sobol" wrote:

So if you have a problem with someone dumping crap onto your
network and you've done everything you can to get the provider to
stop the offender, and they won't, what would you do then? Ignore
it?

Depends on the nature of the abuse.

If you're blocking his packets, and he isn't jumping to a new address
block, then your problem is solved. If the ISP never terminates his
account, why should you care? He's already out of your hair.

If his ISP gives him a new address block in order to get out from under
your filters, then that's something else. Now the ISP has taken
specific action in support of the spam. At this point, but not before,
escalating the filters to cover the rest of the ISP's address space
would make sense.

-- David