In the interest in gaining more community review and comment, a discussion
list has been setup to discuss factually-based technical issues
and solutions surrounding the operational impact of wildcards in
top-level domains on Internet applications.
VeriSign technical people will participate in discussions that are within
the scope for this mailing list.
The list is sitefinder-tech-discuss@lists.elistx.com
To subscribe or unsubscribe the usual "-request" convention works. Send
a message to:
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Put "subscribe" or "unsubscribe" in the body of the message.
Regards,
Mark
Translation:
In the interest in gaining more community review and comment, a discussion
list has been setup to discuss factually-based technical issues
and solutions surrounding the operational impact of wildcards in
top-level domains on Internet applications.
VeriSign technical people will participate in discussions that are within
the scope for this mailing list.
"Verisign will discuss the technical impact of this issue on this list.
However, we all agree there is no technical impact, since this works.
Furthermore, by limiting this list to a technical conversation, we will
completely ignore the political impact, and political correctness of these
acts in any forum."
Having been involved in the community internet for as long as I have, I
want to wretch. I'd think Mark would be one of those, as well.
I am very hesitant to join this particular list because I am afraid that
Verisign will somehow use the fact that I am subscribed as they please
in their PR efforts, e.g. "A panel of Internet experts convened by
Verisign Inc including <insert your name here> has discussed ....., the
panel did not come to consensus that ...... ."
I would rather use existing fora such as the relevant IETF WG(s) or this list.
Daniel
Mark Kosters wrote:
In the interest in gaining more community review and comment, a discussion
list has been setup to discuss factually-based technical issues
and solutions surrounding the operational impact of wildcards in
top-level domains on Internet applications.
We already have such mailing lists.
1) for technical "specification of message formats, message handling,
and data formats used for DNS client-server and server-server
communication": http://ops.ietf.org/lists/namedroppers/
A lively moderated discussion of wildcards is already underway.
2) for "[i]ssues surrounding the operation of DNS, recommendations
concerning the configuration of DNS servers, and other issues with
the use of the protocol": http://ops.ietf.org/lists/ops-area/
VeriSign technical people will participate in discussions that are within
the scope for this mailing list.
VeriSign technical people should have participated elsewhere, and this
mess might have been less likely to occur.
I will not participate in a VeriSign sponsored list, as that might
give fodder for another "press release" claiming network operators and
designers had reviewed and approved the VeriSign changes. I recommend
that others only join neutral unaffiliated discussion lists.
Judging by my troubles in signing up for it -- and, sort of as a matter of crochety pride, I am NOT going to go through a browser to sign up for a mailing list (at least run by people who ought to know better about email but seem to assume the World is the Web), the list may become moot.
I thought I was on namedroppers, but I haven't seen a message in a long time and will make a point of resubscribing.
Without taking a position on the merits of SiteFinder, I would note
that VeriSign representatives mentioned their mailing list today at
the meeting in Washington, DC as evidence that close collaboration with
the Internet community was in progress and that any technical problems
it caused could be solved (once SiteFinder is back online, they meant).
-Declan