ROV Deployment (was LDPv6 Census Check)

I concur. I asked our four major networks we (depaul.edu) had
connectivity from if they supported ROV in early 2019. Cogent, HE.net,
Internet2, and SeverCentral all said they do not and none had plans to
deploy. Now two of those are doing some ROV. We've since replaced Zayo
for Cogent and I asked them about it in late 2019. I know at least one
of the remaining three is seriously looking at supporting it soon.

Lots of reasons for the momentum, but two very noticeable reasons from
my view were when AT&T announced their deployment and when Google got
people worried about dropping routes.

John

That may have an impact down the road, but I doubt that really had that much impact on current deployments.

-dorian

when Google got people worried about dropping routes.

That may have an impact down the road, but I doubt that really had
that much impact on current deployments.

i suspect different folk moved for various reasons. i appreciate the
motion.

while things are moving, the problem is that technical deployment sucks
badly, from the arin disaster to broken relying party software to broken
router implementations; i.e. every step in the chain. the only reason
the mess is not blatantly visible is the fail soft design, aka notFound.
the problem with fail soft is that you think you are protected when you
are not.

my inner naggumite is starting to wonder if fail soft was a mistake.

randy

router implementations; i.e. every step in the chain. the only reason
the mess is not blatantly visible is the fail soft design, aka notFound.
the problem with fail soft is that you think you are protected when you
are not.

I don't see how we would have reasonably found these problems without
large scale actually operating deployments. To me this seems like:
  ipv6 rollouts
  dnssec rollouts
  any other large system change

we expected things to work like X, in reality they work a little differently AND
we have software / systems problems which SEEM like non-problems (or even
features!) which under stress/scale prove to be complications to be filed down.

my inner naggumite is starting to wonder if fail soft was a mistake.

would be hard to argue: "Sure! you should deploy, worse case when
things go wrong
in your deployment (which happens, always) you fall off the net!"

fail soft at least for a while is ok... and helps get systems/people/scale.