RIP and RIPv2, "The glue that makes the internet work"

> What was/is the largest production network (in number of end nodes) that
> used/uses RIP as the IGP?

Xerox routed a few thousand subnets of 13/8 with RIP (v1!) as late as 1998.
Dunno if that's large enough.

  Bill

  Its pretty big. Most of the data is not verifiable, but
  a profile of 100-10,000 subnets, between 5-2000 nodes per subnet
  w/ RIPv1 seems to be emerging for sites like Xerox as well
  as old NSFnet regionals.

  On the other hand, reports of large, multinational networks
  running static routing in their cores seem to indicate a
  desire to have routing in the core more stable than any dynamic
  protocol will allow.

  With the growth in the number of injected prefixes and varient
  paths, one might say that the "value proposition" of dynamic
  routing is not what it once was... Or it could be that the
  folks running the big networks are more comfortable with
  manual/static routing systems? Such environments certainly
  provide easier means to set enforcable service level agreements.
  But my muse has gotten the better of me.

--bill

  On the other hand, reports of large, multinational networks
  running static routing in their cores seem to indicate a
  desire to have routing in the core more stable than any dynamic
  protocol will allow.

Or lack of sufficient clue in their IT departments to implement
anything but static routing (sadly, very often the case in my
experience). Which of course is preferable to the four-router
thirty-route OSPF "designs" I have seen that put each router in its
own area (!).

                                        ---rob

>
> > What was/is the largest production network (in number of end nodes) that
> > used/uses RIP as the IGP?
>
> Xerox routed a few thousand subnets of 13/8 with RIP (v1!) as late as 1998.
> Dunno if that's large enough.
>

Bill it was like this in 2000 still ,then they went EIGRP. I dont know about the
core but it makes one scary EIGRP network no areas !!!!!!. But the EIGRP
seems very stable touch wood.

Mind you I rember Luc De Ghein in the Cisco TAC saying that none
of the ISP's he works with have more than one ISIS area. I am hopping
this has changed.

Regards,
Kevin

> Bill
>

        Its pretty big. Most of the data is not verifiable, but
        a profile of 100-10,000 subnets, between 5-2000 nodes per subnet
        w/ RIPv1 seems to be emerging for sites like Xerox as well
        as old NSFnet regionals.

        On the other hand, reports of large, multinational networks
        running static routing in their cores seem to indicate a
        desire to have routing in the core more stable than any dynamic
        protocol will allow.

        With the growth in the number of injected prefixes and varient
        paths, one might say that the "value proposition" of dynamic
        routing is not what it once was... Or it could be that the
        folks running the big networks are more comfortable with
        manual/static routing systems? Such environments certainly
        provide easier means to set enforcable service level agreements.
        But my muse has gotten the better of me.

--bill

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