RE: Vonage complains about VoIP-blocking

Was that a device trying to phone home and get it's configs?
Cisco, Nortel, etc. phone home and get configs via tftp.

Vonage doesn't need to phone home for config. The device is
programmed (router) and it registers with the call manager.
If you analyze the transactions it's about 89% SIP and 11% SDP.

-M<

Vonage devices initiate an outbound TFTP connection back to Vonage to
snarf their configs on initial connection and also (presumably) on reboot.

Many, many VoIP devices do this, including Cisco phones in all major
flavors. If an ISP is blocking TFTP originated by its customers at the
border, this will cause numerous problems with many VoIP devices as
well as numerous other things where a customer needs to initiate a TFTP
session over the Internet.

Filtering customer-initiated TFTP will cause problems with many legitimate
applications and devices.

Vonage devices initiate an outbound TFTP connection back to Vonage to
snarf their configs on initial connection and also (presumably) on reboot.

Many, many VoIP devices do this, including Cisco phones in all major
flavors. If an ISP is blocking TFTP originated by its customers at the
border, this will cause numerous problems with many VoIP devices as
well as numerous other things where a customer needs to initiate a TFTP
session over the Internet.

Filtering customer-initiated TFTP will cause problems with many legitimate
applications and devices.

Most devices have moved to http config, sipura, snom, panasonic, etc. We
moved away from tftp because of a lot of NAT and blocking issues. As far
as SIP, I don't see it as a major problem since you can use any port.

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Nathan Stratton BroadVoice, Inc.
nathan at robotics.net Talk IS Cheap
http://www.robotics.net http://www.broadvoice.com

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> Was that a device trying to phone home and get it's configs?
> Cisco, Nortel, etc. phone home and get configs via tftp.
>
> Vonage doesn't need to phone home for config. The device is
programmed
> (router) and it registers with the call manager.
> If you analyze the transactions it's about 89% SIP and 11% SDP.

Vonage devices initiate an outbound TFTP connection back to
Vonage to snarf their configs on initial connection and also
(presumably) on reboot.

Many, many VoIP devices do this, including Cisco phones in
all major flavors. If an ISP is blocking TFTP originated by
its customers at the border, this will cause numerous
problems with many VoIP devices as well as numerous other
things where a customer needs to initiate a TFTP session over
the Internet.

Filtering customer-initiated TFTP will cause problems with
many legitimate applications and devices.

Consequently, should "unlikely or most likely not :)" be filtered
by (I|N)SP, IMHO. Who's (still) using TFTP for fragile tasks...?

Cheers,

mh