Mail servers should be registered just like domains and shutdown by a
registrar if they are misusing their registered services. This really
needs to be handled by a multi-lateral legal solution, industry will not
fix it alone.
LP
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Larry
Larry Pingree
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Yes, that's just what we need. More unworkable legislation that
nobody'll bother to enforce in the intended manner anyway. It's not as
if many of the things one has to do to spam effectively isn't already
good for a few years behind bars, yet I don't exactly see prisons
bulging with spammers.
Let's suppose mail servers are registered like domains. What mechanism
is there going to be in place to shut down the mail server if it
starts misbehaving? Sending in the Marines?
And again, much of this comes down to enforcement. When was the last
time you heard of a spammer's domain being pulled? How about the last
time you saw a spammer be even remotely bothered by having their
domain pulled? Do you think they'll really care less about losing a
mail server when they've got another dozen lined up ready and waiting?
And again, much of this comes down to enforcement. When was the last
time you heard of a spammer's domain being pulled? How about the last
time you saw a spammer be even remotely bothered by having their
domain pulled? Do you think they'll really care less about losing a
mail server when they've got another dozen lined up ready and waiting?
Well, just a couple of days ago I read about a Russian court in
Chelyabinsk that sentenced a spammer to two years in prison. It's
the first conviction under a Russian law that forbids the use
of malicious software and the court felt that the spamming scripts
used by this guy were malicious software.
What he did was to send text messages to mobile phone
subscribers of a single company by means of a web gateway.
I think the main reason he was put on trial was because the
mobile operator whose customers were getting the spam and
whose gateway was being misused, went to the police and
complained. How many ISPs in the USA go to the police and
register official complaints about spammers? We have lots
of smart people who can track down and identify spammers
but it does no good unless the companies who suffer damage
register an official police complaint.
--Michael Dillon
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Larry Pingree wrote:
Mail servers should be registered just like domains and shutdown by a
registrar if they are misusing their registered services. This really
needs to be handled by a multi-lateral legal solution, industry will not
fix it alone.
Very bad, very unworkable solution. There's just too many mail servers
out there (legitimate ones) for this to be even remotely feasible.
Systems like SPF are on the right tracks but it's still not a very
elegant solution.
My vote is still for some kind of public key authentication built around
already existing protocols (TLS for example). The free e-mail providers
would be number one on my list to implement this! It'd still be a lot
of work and require total cooperation from the Internet community, however.
Of course, if I knew a total solution that'd please everyone I wouldn't
be sitting here writing this. I'd be sitting on my private Island in
the South Pacific sipping cocktails 
Chris
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That sentence is A joke 15000 subscribers affected
Court Convicts Obscene Text Messager