RE: Proper authentication model

There may be common points of failure like a carrier hotel, but I
haven't been told I couldn't see loop or longhaul maps when planning
a circuit, except when buying from other than a carrier[1] or tier2.
Primary and protect should be geographically seperated and if
your carrier isn't buying access to BOTH conduits in your entrance
facility, you should ask why. I just don't usually see this problem
and I've *never* not been able to get into a facility remotely by
the diversified frame M/S method.

If we're talking semantics, order type 2 ds0s.

[1] I'm talking RBOC tier1 for the most part. I would consider tier 1
    to be SBC, AT&T, MCI, Sprint, etc. Facilities based.

-M<

I've seen two diverse sides of a SONET ring die due to fiber cuts
within minutes of each other on different sides of a city. A local
tech (from our company) drove to each and actually snapped a photo of
each site.

And our facilities and the ring were truly physically diverse, which
was the kicker. And yes it took down our LEC and IXC access to the
site.

JB