RE: Proper authentication model

Provisioning a circuit from two different ^providers^, other than
your OC3 provider. Of course, you need to have at least 3 unique
carriers in the facility, but most do. This is not so easy at
the enterprise level.

I'd add the caveat that this only works if you have diversified
entrance facilities and follow bellcore standards for central
offices when you design and implement your facilities. For
example, Level3 and Internap.

-M<

I realise that's what you meant.

My point was that competing, differently-named and organisationally-separate suppliers of network services frequently use common suppliers for metro fibre, long-haul transport, building access, etc. Just because you buy different services from different providers doesn't mean there will be no common points of failure.

Joe

Fate sharing is bad. The only way to be sure you aren't fate sharing is to
request GIS data from the carriers. And even that could be wrong...

- Dan

> My point was that competing, differently-named and
> organisationally-separate suppliers of network services frequently use
> common suppliers for metro fibre, long-haul transport, building

access,

> etc. Just because you buy different services from different providers
> doesn't mean there will be no common points of failure.

Fate sharing is bad. The only way to be sure you aren't fate sharing is

to

request GIS data from the carriers. And even that could be wrong...

Tell your carrier that you want to buy physical seperacy.
Currently this is only offered by some metro networks
because corporates want physical seperacy to connect their SANs
(Storage Area Networks) to their offices. My company's
network maintains seperacy for the financial market data
feeds that run across it. We do that because the customers
specifically demand that capability.

Rather than trying to do the carrier's job by requesting
GIS data, tell them you want to buy "physical seperacy"
as a product. Get them to do the work and show you the
data to prove that they really are delivering physical
seperacy.

--Michael Dillon

That's great if you want to trust one carrier to provide all your seperacy,
but, when you want to make sure carrier A isn't running your ring in common
with carrier B, you need GIS data.

Owen