RE: North America not interested in IP V6

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From: Cougar [mailto:cougar@random.ee]

> And further to this...will it be required (or wise at all)
to register
> individual /48 delegations when it becomes commonplace to
allocate them
> to standard home users?
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> Plus, putting in and maintaining hundreds of thousands of
entries (we
> have a
> lot of users) would be quite impractical.

How many home users need /48 ? I see here almost no home
users who need
more than /64..

Read RFC 3177, it recommends /48 so that users get given enough space
to never have to worry. We cant predict what will happen in 15 years,
so we shouldnt put artifical limitations on this.

And includes reasons as to why that was decided upon.

Its such a shame that a lot of companies want to restrict innovation
by insisting that consumers will only want or need a single ip addres
or subnet. Or that people only ever need to access web sites with
their net connection. This seems especially so in the states and aus.

In europe, when any consumer gets a net connection it's sold as
a pipe to do anything you want with (as long as it abides by laws
and netiquette.

It seems that this silly restrictive mentality will remain even with
ipv6...

BB

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Ben Buxton wrote:

In europe, when any consumer gets a net connection it's sold as
a pipe to do anything you want with (as long as it abides by laws
and netiquette.

It seems that this silly restrictive mentality will remain even with
ipv6...

In the US, the pipe is limited in any number of ways in attempts to limit how many people share their broadband with their neighbor at a reduced rate.

Another issue is that handing out IP addresses to the home at this point is foolish. User's, in general, can't protect themselves.

-Jack

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In europe, when any consumer gets a net connection it's sold as
a pipe to do anything you want with (as long as it abides by laws
and netiquette.

That is certainly not the case everywhere in Europe.

In Norway, there are several operators that have limitations on
your use of xDSL, for instance ("no servers", "only x GB per month
of downloads" etc).

Steinar Haug, Nethelp consulting, sthaug@nethelp.no