RE: No one behind the wheel at WorldCom

What vendor by default does not take action on no-export???

Certainly cisco and juniper both honor it by default.

To get back to the original question of 63/9 being announced it can be entertaining to watch for other fishy routes to show up in the routing table, like 63/8. I know of at least one outage caused because someone advertised a route like that. The underlying problem, is that there are no good widely deployed solutions for controlling what the large backbones inject into the routing table at peering points. A large tier 1 deaggregates towards another bad things happen. It would be nice if there was a supportable way to only allow one isp to advertise appropriate routes to another. The IRR stuff is a neat idea but I dont think many ISPs trust it enough to use it to build ACLs.

If everyone maintained current IRR entries, it would work just fine. The
real problem is there are still a lot of networks who's idea of filtering
their customers is a prefix-limit or a filter you have to call or email in
manually.

The only people who actually maintain accurate IRR entries (other than the
occational net kook) are those whose transit depends on it. Trying to
convert an existing customer base to IRR is a nightmarish task, some of
these large established providers will probably NEVER do it unless there
is some actual motivation.

Supposidly Level 3 requires IRR filtering on their peers, but do they
actually try to enforce this? I know they do an excellent job maintaining
their own IRR entries, but I'm certain they peer with people who don't
have a current db. Probably not, since the vast majority of their current
peers don't meet their current peering requirements. :slight_smile:

Supposidly Level 3 requires IRR filtering on their peers, but do they
actually try to enforce this? I know they do an excellent job maintaining
their own IRR entries, but I'm certain they peer with people who don't
have a current db. Probably not, since the vast majority of their current
peers don't meet their current peering requirements. :slight_smile:

Hehehe ok someone answered this question for me privately...

For example:

whois -h whois.radb.net 64.206.3.0/20

...
route: 64.206.3.0/24
descr: Proxy-registered route object for Sprint :slight_smile:
origin: AS7136
remarks: auto-generated route object
remarks: this next line gives the robot something to recognize
remarks: The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog.
remarks:
remarks: This route object is for a Sprint customer route
remarks: which is being exported under this origin AS.
remarks:
remarks: This route object was created because no existing
remarks: route object with the same origin was found, and
remarks: we really just wanted to help out those poor Sprint
remarks: folks who have an aversion to registering routes.
remarks:
remarks: We hope they have a sense of humor.
remarks:
remarks: Please contact WeLoveThoseCrazySprintFolks@Level3.net
remarks: if you have any questions regarding this object.
mnt-by: SPRINT-MNT
changed: WeLoveThoseCrazySprintFolks@Level3.net 20020626
source: LEVEL3