RE: AS286 effectively no more..

Does anyone know what happened to the Ebone/KPNQWEST European-wide DWDM
system? I figure that if it was shut down, we would see more impact.

Their IP network load I bet was quite easily handled by other operators
considering the huge over-capacity situation we have had the past years.

Parts of the Eurorings (the KPNQwest part of the KPNQwest/Ebone network
combination) seem to be semi-active - otherwise bits wouldn't flow from
Qwest to Leiden in NL. But there are just KPNQwest core AS/KPN Belgium/
Luxembourg prefixes advertised on the IP side.

I am worried on the networks that have swapped/IRU:ed fibers from KQ and
have transmission gear co-located at KQ amp huts / major nodes, using KQ
rectifiers to get DC juice to their racks.
It is going to be interesting to watch if/when the still-lit remains of
the Eurorings go dark on transmission level - I've understood there were
couple of _very utilized_ WDM rings in KQ central european network..

What is the legal position of an IRU deal if the cable owner goes belly up?

--kauto

What is the legal position of an IRU deal if the cable owner goes belly
up?

Unless someone buys the equipment and agrees to theke the IRU:s on - they are worthless.

- kurtis -

You can make fiber IRUs stick even if the company who bought the fiber
goes belly up.

IRUs ("Indefeasible Rights of Use" seems to be the acronym?) as far as I
know, is just that, you actually own the fibers you IRUed for the time
being.

> Unless someone buys the equipment and agrees to theke the IRU:s on - they
> are worthless.

You can make fiber IRUs stick even if the company who bought the fiber
goes belly up.

IRUs ("Indefeasible Rights of Use" seems to be the acronym?) as far as I
know, is just that, you actually own the fibers you IRUed for the time
being.

Most IRU contracts I looked at before putting together ours did not specify a clause such as:

"Unless terminated earlier under Clauses 4.1, 4.2 or 4.3, this Agreement shall remain in force for a period of 15 (fifteen) years and shall be binding on the Supplier; any other legal entity which may replace the Supplier; the Supplier liquidator (should there be one) or anyone to whom the Supplier may transfer the rights and ownership of the underground fiber optic cables."
Go look to see if your IRU contract has any clause about the supplier liquidator.

-Hank

Unless someone buys the equipment and agrees to theke the IRU:s on -
they are worthless.

You can make fiber IRUs stick even if the company who bought the fiber
goes belly up.

Yes, but this is the other way around. If the company you bought the IRU from goes belly up, there is no guarantee you can keep them running. That is up to the agreement between the seller (the administrator) and the buyer (of the bancupcy assets).

IRUs ("Indefeasible Rights of Use" seems to be the acronym?) as far as I
know, is just that, you actually own the fibers you IRUed for the time
being.

Well, it's actually more like a land lease contract. You don' own them, you have the right to use it as you see fit for the agreed time period though.

Best regards,

- kurtis -