The RBL team and I are kind of wondering what to do about some spam we got.
Because blackholing NSI would be of operational concern to a lot of you, I've
decided to ponder this question out loud:
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Hmm.... Thinking out loud here... (is 4:30 AM)
I wonder how many times this message will be sent.
Otherwords one for each domain?
Does this mean that I have to "opt-out" for each domain I have
registered??? Yuk.
Maybe a new field is needed when creating a domain,
__ Check here to NOT receive anything except invoices from NSI
Then the thought of complaining to hostmonster@internic.net is not
so good as that means more (non registeration based) email to
be handled by the auto script stuff.
Personally I would like to see NSI respond to this before I say
one way or the other. RBL'ing NSI would cause some ops problems
and they don't really need any more right now 
I personally don't want to receive anything from them EXCEPT invoice
notifications, Update Changes, etc. If I want to purchase something
or learn more about them, I'll surf their web site and maybe signup
for their newsletter thingy. (Thats Opt-IN)
I really hate having to "OPT-OUT" of something, its one more thing
to do and I never know if it will really stick or not.
I don't think I have a solid yes/no answer. I'll wait for NSI to respond.
Chuck, David???
jmbrown@ihighway.net
The RBL team and I are kind of wondering what to do about some spam we got.
Because blackholing NSI would be of operational concern to a lot of you, I've
decided to ponder this question out loud:------- Forwarded Message
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 08:50:26 PST
To: rbl@maps.vix.com
Subject: Paul - value call on thisTechnically, this is an opt-out customer-relationship spam.
I think it is a special case, because _there is no where else to go_.
208.226.58.70 should be RBL'ed, IMHO. Help me.
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The RBL team and I are kind of wondering what to do about some spam we got.
Because blackholing NSI would be of operational concern to a lot of you, I've
decided to ponder this question out loud:
The answer is simple: Follow your own guidelines for RBL entries.
Are they rogue? Do ignore complaints, or lie in order to shut people up?
Have they spammed repeatedly?
Incidentally: NETSOL.COM isn't INTERNIC.NET. At least I think they use
separate IP's.
Really, on this one, we're all pretty much screwed. You can't blackhole
them because, as you say, there's nowhere else to go. Normally, in the
spamfight, we'd go to their upstreams and complain and possibly cost the
spammer their connectivity...but who's going to disconnect InterNIC?
The really sad part is that there is no way to avoid this problem with NSI.
The head cheese at Verisign is on the Board of Directors at NSI, so the
spam WILL continue. There's no mallet we can hold over their head like we
could any other spammer because their connectivity is safe.
This is yet another example of the arrogance of NSI. They well know how
the 'Netizens feel about spam, and they feel that the loosest of contacts
is sufficient to justify the spam (I've gotten it, and I don't have a
domain nor am I a contact for any domain...I'm just on their RS-TALK
listserv). Yet they spam. Blatant disregard for anyone but their own
greedy selves.
Sadly...they can get away with it because of who they are and the position
they occupy. I actually pray for the day when someone supplants their
sorry butts...
Spammers should be investigated by Ken Starr!
Dean Robb
PC-EASY computer services
(757) 495-EASY [3279]
On one hand spam is spam. On the other hand it might interfere with our
operations with NSI. They do a *lot* of business via e-mail. Black-hole 'em
for a week. It's long enough to get their attention yet not so long it'll
screw up operations.
The RBL team and I are kind of wondering what to do about some spam we got.
Because blackholing NSI would be of operational concern to a lot of you, I've
decided to ponder this question out loud:------- Forwarded Message
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 08:50:26 PST
To: rbl@maps.vix.com
Subject: Paul - value call on thisTechnically, this is an opt-out customer-relationship spam.
I think it is a special case, because _there is no where else to go_.
208.226.58.70 should be RBL'ed, IMHO. Help me.
Return-Path: owner-admin1@LISTS.NETSOL.COM
Received: from pasteur.netsol.com ([208.226.58.70]) by ns2.galaxy-net.net
(8.8.7/8.6.9) with ESMTP id QAA00585; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 16:50:06 -0800 (PST)
Received: from pasteur (pasteur [208.226.58.70])
by pasteur.netsol.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA23788;
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