Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 14:47:21 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Mr. James W. Laferriere" <babydr@baby-dragons.com>

  Hello Kevin,

> > From: Majdi Abbas <majdi@puck.nether.net>
> > Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 16:20:55 -0400 (EDT)
> > Sender: owner-nanog@merit.edu
> > Heads up:
> > https://www.merit.edu/radb/fee.html

> Yes, but before getting excited, please read the full text including
> the part about participants at the MAEs, PAIX, AADS, and PacBell being
> exempt.
  Is this supposed to make me feel better ? Hmmm, I don't have any
  relationships there & I'll bet so DON'T alot of others . These
  continual .05 & .10 antics of every frigging organisation that
  has anything todo with the internet today is getting -WAY- out
  line (not the prices I saw there) . Next some idiot is going
  to say Because I provide toilet paper to Cisco/Bay-Networks/...
  I'm going to bill all of you with a wipe your backend surcharge.
  Signed Prodtor&Grumble or somesuch . Gawd where does this end .

Actually, it's a win for us as we have been one of the ISPs who have
been contributing (to the tune of 5 figures) to keep the RADB alive
for the past couple of years since the NSF quit funding it. Most of
the world has been getting by for free, but we felt the RADB was
essential to a well run Internet and were willing to pay (along with
Verio, ANS, and some others) to keep it in place.

There are a great many parts of the Internet that were funded by the
government. The government has no real business running the Internet,
so I am just as happy to see the finding become privatized.

(Yes, ESnet is U.S. Government funded.)

Most larger ISPs are at one of the places where the route servers are
located and most local ISPs have their registrations handled by their
up-streams who are at the route servers. For those who do their own,
it will be another .05 & .10 charge, I'm afraid. But, until all
functions that make the Internet run are funded by those who use the
Internet, there will undoubtedly be more of them.

Now that I've said that, I do think that Merit should be doing a MUCH
better job of letting people know about this. I heard about it a
couple of weeks ago on the RADB mailing list, but until today, nothing
on NANOG, an obvious place for it and one managed by Merit.

R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer
Energy Sciences Network (ESnet)
Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab)
E-mail: oberman@es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634

Of course, today is the first time I heard about it as well.
They `could' have sent mail to the maintainer records

If they will not change their mind and change the terms to something like
_all unpaid objects will be frozen and maintaners removed_, we are facing
a very strong storm in the Internet when this brainless system remove
something important from the data base. Remember, a lot of providers use
RADB for the configuration different distribute lists...

It's safe tp block the future changes of the unpaid objects, but any
removing can destroy the whole Internet...