Publish or (gulp) Perish

Slightly off-topic...

Most technical fields have standard journals that they use to publish
interesting findings and new ways of doing things. Everything from Nature to
the JAMA. Here's the question for the group: Do these sorts of publications
exist in the networking/carrier/internetworking space, and if not, should
they?

Some possible examples (if anyone reads them):
SIGCOMM (http://www.acm.org/sigcomm/),
BCR (http://www.bcr.com/bcrmag/),
Cisco's IPJ (http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/759/).

I'm leaving off "news" publications like Light Reading and Network World.
Any thoughts? Have NANOG powerpoint presentations made these sorts of
journals obsolete? :slight_smile:

Daniel Golding wrote:

Slightly off-topic...

Most technical fields have standard journals that they use to publish
interesting findings and new ways of doing things. Everything from Nature to
the JAMA. Here's the question for the group: Do these sorts of publications
exist in the networking/carrier/internetworking space, and if not, should
they?

Some possible examples (if anyone reads them):
SIGCOMM (http://www.acm.org/sigcomm/),
BCR (http://www.bcr.com/bcrmag/),
Cisco's IPJ (Networking, Cloud, and Cybersecurity Solutions - Cisco).

I'm leaving off "news" publications like Light Reading and Network World.
Any thoughts? Have NANOG powerpoint presentations made these sorts of
journals obsolete? :slight_smile:

  IEEE/ACM Transactions on Networking?

IEEE, but it's a little on the expensive side if you pay your own dues...

http://ieee.org/portal/index.jsp
http://www.comsoc.org/
http://www.comsoc.org/~ni/

scott

ACM SIGCOMM CCR is a good venue to publish early results
of research and the editorial process is quick.

[ various journals ]

Any thoughts? Have NANOG powerpoint presentations made these sorts of
journals obsolete? :slight_smile:

Powerpoints have a hard time matching the depth of a refereed journal
submission, because with the powerpoint, soundbites tend to take
precedence over content.

/vijay

Any thoughts? Have NANOG powerpoint presentations made these sorts of
journals obsolete? :slight_smile:

Powerpoints have a hard time matching the depth of a refereed journal
submission, because with the powerpoint, soundbites tend to take
precedence over content.

Power corrupts; Powerpoint corrupts absolutely. -- vint cerf

Vijay hit it on the head - have we all been foolish by trying to put our
collective expression of service provider best practices and network design
into an archive of Powerpoint? To quote the Magic Eight Ball, "All
indications point to yes"

vijay gill <vgill@vijaygill.com> writes:

Powerpoints have a hard time matching the depth of a refereed journal
submission, because with the powerpoint, soundbites tend to take
precedence over content.

Attention to sidebar on page 192 of the Columbia Accident
Investigation Board report entitled "Engineering by Viewgraphs":

http://www.nasa.gov/columbia/caib/PDFS/VOL1/PART02.PDF

                                        ---Rob

It is my firm believe that if a Powerpoint presentation was to say "The
Ocean is made of Yogurt", it would be believe by management. I believe
next time I give a presenation I will put that line in.

- Robert

Wow. The Columbia disaster caused (in part) by PowerPoint!? :-] Worth checking out. It's on page 191, isn't it? I took a class in information presentation by the fellow quoted, Dr. Edward Tufte. It was excellent.

Regarding the original question about journals, I have found the Internet Protocol Journal to be helpful. Yes, it is published by Cisco, but it has an academic approach and the editorial board is all non-Cisco and includes luminaries such as Vint Cerf. A frequent contributor is Geoff Huston, whom I admire a lot.

Don't confuse the Internet Protocol Journal with Packet magazine, also from Cisco. Packet is definitely marketing driven, whereas IPJ is more research-oriented. More on IPJ here:

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/759/

I'd be interesting in hearing what you all think of IPJ.

I'm leaving off "news" publications like Light Reading and Network World.
Any thoughts? Have NANOG powerpoint presentations made these sorts of
journals obsolete? :slight_smile:

Don't forget SysAdmin, altho it's waning as its page size has continuously decreased. http://www.samag.com/

Rob Nelson
ronelson@vt.edu