[policy] When Tech Meets Policy...

From owner-nanog@merit.edu Mon Aug 13 20:15:50 2007
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 19:37:09 -0500
From: Carl Karsten <carl@personnelware.com>
To: nanog@merit.edu
Subject: Re: [policy] When Tech Meets Policy...

J Bacher wrote:
>
> Carl Karsten wrote:
>
>>> That is, if you extend domains on credit w/o any useful accountability
>>> of the buyer and this results in a pattern of criminality then the
>>> liability for that fraud should be shared by the seller.
>>
>> I am not sure tasting is criminal or fraud.
>
> You got what you ordered. You used it. You pay for it. It's that simple.

That doesn't make anything criminal or fraud any more than free samples. If a
registrar wants to give a refund, I don't see anything wrong with that.

It is not even close to that simple,

In and of itself, 'tasting' is neither criminal, nor fraudulent.

*HOWEVER*, available evidence suggests that a large proportion of 'tasting'
_is_ done "in furtherance/support of" criminal/fraudulent activities.

Registry operator data indicates that less than _six-tenths of one perecent_
of 'tasted' domains are kept by the taster.

Analysis of data from another registry operator suggests that that operator
is now processing roughly 3.25 _million_ *unpalatable* (i.e., _will_ be
returned) 'tasting' domain registrations =per=day=.

IF we postulate there are 100 million registered names with that operator,
then the annualized number of _returned_ 'tasting' registrations is around
TEN TIMES the total number of registered domain names.

_IF_ the registry operator is at least breaking even on the entire registration
process -- 'real domains' plug 'tasting' -- then it would seem that the
registry-operator fee for registration of a domain registration could be
reduced _by_a_factor_of_ten_, if tasting was the same price as a real
registration.

On the other hand, if the free tasting is 'out of hand' to the point where
registry operators are 'in the red' due to the 'incremental' costs thereof,
*that* problem also needs to be addressed. Life could be _really_ interesting
if a registry operator contract came up for renewal, and _nobody_ bid.

Anybody with _reasonable_ "plan ahead" skills can live with a week between
name registration submission, and the name going 'live' -- given that they do
know, _immediately_ that the registration is successful. Those who have
'urgent' need should pay a premium for 'expidited' service -- and those who
have a _legitimate_ need for such service will not balk at paying a
significant premium for that service. It _IS_ worth 'big bucks' to them,
because, even at that price, it is '_much_ cheaper than the alternative'.

I'd suggest:
  1) one week latency between registration and entry into the TLD nameservers.
  2) 50% (of 1-year registration fee) 'penalty' for cancelling the registration
     before it hits the TLD servers.
  3) $250 'surcharge' (to registrant) for 'immediate' _irrevocable_ recording
     in the TLD nameservers, 25% of that surcharge to be retained by the
     registrar, 25% to the registry operator, and 50% to IANA.

I'd suggest:
  1) one week latency between registration and entry into the
TLD nameservers.
  2) 50% (of 1-year registration fee) 'penalty' for
cancelling the registration
     before it hits the TLD servers.
  3) $250 'surcharge' (to registrant) for 'immediate'
_irrevocable_ recording
     in the TLD nameservers, 25% of that surcharge to be
retained by the
     registrar, 25% to the registry operator, and 50% to IANA.

Can I assume that you, and all the other people commenting on domain
tasting have filed official comments with ICANN as requested at this web
page? Request for Information on Domain Tasting

Or is this just a load of hot air as usual?

Democracy, you either use it or lose it!

--Michael Dillon

I'd suggest:
  1) one week latency between registration and entry into the
TLD nameservers.
  2) 50% (of 1-year registration fee) 'penalty' for
cancelling the registration
     before it hits the TLD servers.
  3) $250 'surcharge' (to registrant) for 'immediate'
_irrevocable_ recording
     in the TLD nameservers, 25% of that surcharge to be
retained by the
     registrar, 25% to the registry operator, and 50% to IANA.

Can I assume that you, and all the other people commenting on domain
tasting have filed official comments with ICANN as requested at this web
page? Request for Information on Domain Tasting

No, but that is an excellent reminder for which I thank you. Note

To be considered by the group, information should be submitted no later than 15 September 2007 to rfi-domaintasting@icann.org. Comments may be viewed at ICANN Email Archives: [rfi-domaintasting].

Or is this just a load of hot air as usual?

Democracy, you either use it or lose it!

--Michael Dillon

Regards
Marshall

> Can I assume that you, and all the other people commenting on domain
> tasting have filed official comments with ICANN as requested at
> this web
> page? Request for Information on Domain Tasting

No, but that is an excellent reminder for which I thank you. Note

yup, thanks Michael.

To be considered by the group, information should be submitted no
later than 15 September 2007 to rfi-domaintasting@icann.org. Comments
may be viewed at ICANN Email Archives: [rfi-domaintasting].

Is this something where a consensus 'vote' from a larger group would help?
or one of the letter writing campaigns congress loves so much?

> > Request for Information on Domain Tasting

Is this something where a consensus 'vote' from a larger
group would help?
or one of the letter writing campaigns congress loves so much?

My impression is that it will be more useful for many individuals to
make their own comments. In particular, at the URL above, there is a
Request For Information document that is a sort of questionnaire.
Because of the fact that it is a questionnaire, I suspect that ICANN
plans to treat it as a sort of survey. In that case, numbers count.

--Michael Dillon