Peering Latency

Hey all - new to the list but not to the community...

Wondering if this is typical when there is too small of a pipe between peering
arrangements:

From Level3 to Time Warner

     ADDRESS STATUS
   2 4.69.133.206 4ms 4ms 4ms
   3 4.69.153.222 9ms 4ms 4ms
   4 4.69.158.78 8ms 4ms 4ms (L3)
   5 66.109.9.121 28ms 53ms 29ms (TWC) <------
   6 107.14.19.87 30ms 28ms 28ms
   7 66.109.6.213 27ms 28ms 28ms
   8 72.129.1.1 32ms 32ms 32ms
   9 72.129.1.7 27ms 26ms 25ms
  10 67.52.158.145 28ms 29ms 31ms

From TWC to Level3

# ADDRESS RT1 RT2 RT3 STATUS

2 24.43.183.34 5ms 5ms 6ms
3 72.129.1.14 8ms 8ms 8ms

4 72.129.1.2 6ms 8ms 8ms

5 107.14.19.30 7ms 8ms 8ms

6 66.109.6.4 8ms 8ms 8ms

7 107.14.19.86 5ms 5ms 5ms

8 66.109.9.122 34ms 33ms 31ms (TWC) <------

9 4.69.158.65 31ms 30ms 29ms (L3)
10 4.69.153.221 33ms 33ms 34ms
11 4.69.133.205 32ms 32ms 31ms

I am showing, typically at night, a 20-40ms jump when hopping from Level3 to
Time Warner and back in Tustin, CA. This does not happen when using Cogent or
other blended providers bandwidth. I believe they are probably stuffing too
many bits thru the peering there and wondering whats the best way to prove to
them both (we pay for both) that they need to fix it.

During non-peak traffic times these look normal (sub 10s).

Sam

Hey all - new to the list but not to the community...

Wondering if this is typical when there is too small of a pipe between

peering

arrangements:

From Level3 to Time Warner

     ADDRESS STATUS
   2 4.69.133.206 4ms 4ms 4ms
   3 4.69.153.222 9ms 4ms 4ms
   4 4.69.158.78 8ms 4ms 4ms (L3)
   5 66.109.9.121 28ms 53ms 29ms (TWC) <------
   6 107.14.19.87 30ms 28ms 28ms
   7 66.109.6.213 27ms 28ms 28ms
   8 72.129.1.1 32ms 32ms 32ms
   9 72.129.1.7 27ms 26ms 25ms
  10 67.52.158.145 28ms 29ms 31ms

From TWC to Level3

# ADDRESS RT1 RT2 RT3 STATUS

2 24.43.183.34 5ms 5ms 6ms
3 72.129.1.14 8ms 8ms 8ms

4 72.129.1.2 6ms 8ms 8ms

5 107.14.19.30 7ms 8ms 8ms

6 66.109.6.4 8ms 8ms 8ms

7 107.14.19.86 5ms 5ms 5ms

8 66.109.9.122 34ms 33ms 31ms (TWC)

<------

9 4.69.158.65 31ms 30ms 29ms (L3)
10 4.69.153.221 33ms 33ms 34ms
11 4.69.133.205 32ms 32ms 31ms

I am showing, typically at night, a 20-40ms jump when hopping from Level3

to

Time Warner and back in Tustin, CA. This does not happen when using

Cogent or

other blended providers bandwidth. I believe they are probably stuffing

too

many bits thru the peering there and wondering whats the best way to

prove to

them both (we pay for both) that they need to fix it.

During non-peak traffic times these look normal (sub 10s).

Sam

This latency usually means a change in the return path as you cross an AS
boundry.

The first AS may have a local peering for the best return path while the
2nd AS on the return path has to go to a different region to take the bgp
best path

Is it Friday already? Or is this not a troll email? Its hard to tell.

If its not a troll: Put up some smokeping boxes. Graph it for a few nights. Gather details. Send us those. That is far more interesting/(damning?)

If its a troll: *grabs popcorn and gets comfortable* . we've not had a good "zomg the pipes, they are teh fullz, woe is Netflix" (and the obligatory cgn/v6/software vs hardware router sub thread divergences).

Very nicely struck balance sir!