ouch..

http://www.overpromisesunderdelivers.net/

Saying the other brand sucks doesn't make yours any better. Besides, there are other big players on the market. Terribly lame of Cisco...

Vlad Galu
galu@packetdam.com

Wow, classy.

Nick

Looks like some random person registered this one. The domain and ip do not look related to cisco even though someone has falsely pasted their logo all over the site.

whois overpromisesunderdelivers.net

Whois Server Version 2.0

Domain names in the .com and .net domains can now be registered
with many different competing registrars. Go to http://www.internic.net
for detailed information.

   Domain Name: OVERPROMISESUNDERDELIVERS.NET
   Registrar: GODADDY.COM, INC.
   Whois Server: whois.godaddy.com
   Referral URL: http://registrar.godaddy.com
   Name Server: NS35.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
   Name Server: NS36.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
   Status: clientDeleteProhibited
   Status: clientRenewProhibited
   Status: clientTransferProhibited
   Status: clientUpdateProhibited
   Updated Date: 05-sep-2011
   Creation Date: 05-sep-2011
   Expiration Date: 05-sep-2012

Registrant:
   Domains by Proxy, Inc.
   DomainsByProxy.com
   15111 N. Hayden Rd., Ste 160, PMB 353
   Scottsdale, Arizona 85260
   United States

   Registered through: GoDaddy.com, Inc. (http://www.godaddy.com)
   Domain Name: OVERPROMISESUNDERDELIVERS.NET
      Created on: 05-Sep-11
      Expires on: 05-Sep-12
      Last Updated on: 05-Sep-11

   Administrative Contact:
      Private, Registration OVERPROMISESUNDERDELIVERS.NET@domainsbyproxy.com
      Domains by Proxy, Inc.
      DomainsByProxy.com
      15111 N. Hayden Rd., Ste 160, PMB 353
      Scottsdale, Arizona 85260
      United States
      (480) 624-2599 Fax -- (480) 624-2598

   Technical Contact:
      Private, Registration OVERPROMISESUNDERDELIVERS.NET@domainsbyproxy.com
      Domains by Proxy, Inc.
      DomainsByProxy.com
      15111 N. Hayden Rd., Ste 160, PMB 353
      Scottsdale, Arizona 85260
      United States
      (480) 624-2599 Fax -- (480) 624-2598

   Domain servers in listed order:
      NS35.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
      NS36.DOMAINCONTROL.COM

braaen@brian:~$ dig OVERPROMISESUNDERDELIVERS.NET

; <<>> DiG 9.7.3 <<>> OVERPROMISESUNDERDELIVERS.NET
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 40339
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 2

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;OVERPROMISESUNDERDELIVERS.NET. IN A

;; ANSWER SECTION:
OVERPROMISESUNDERDELIVERS.NET. 3364 IN A 98.129.229.190

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
OVERPROMISESUNDERDELIVERS.NET. 3364 IN NS ns36.domaincontrol.com.
OVERPROMISESUNDERDELIVERS.NET. 3364 IN NS ns35.domaincontrol.com.

;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
ns35.domaincontrol.com. 3046 IN A 216.69.185.18
ns36.domaincontrol.com. 3046 IN A 208.109.255.18

braaen@brian:~$ dig -x 98.129.229.190

; <<>> DiG 9.7.3 <<>> -x 98.129.229.190
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NXDOMAIN, id: 26507
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 0

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;190.229.129.98.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
229.129.98.in-addr.arpa. 300 IN SOA ns.rackspace.com. hostmaster.rackspace.com. 1314291452 3600 300 1814400 300

(1) If Cisco were responsible, would they want to advertise the fact ?

(2) If Cisco feel their intellectual and copyright property is being
abused, Cisco lawyers would have the Cisco name and branding removed in
seconds !

Paul,
England,
EU.

Main cisco page has a link to it...

Frank

Hi Frank,

http://blogs.cisco.com/tag/overpromise/

Quote from the blog: "Some vendors have repeatedly over-promised and under
delivered, and still somehow receive credit for their vision! (You can read
more about one vendor's repeated broken promises here.)"

http://www.overpromisesunderdelivers.net/

https://twitter.com/#!/CiscoSystems/status/113226120601677825

https://twitter.com/#!/CiscoNL/statuses/113577908525744129

Personally I think this is a pathetic action from Cisco, however I'm not
surprised by them doing it ...

Regards,
Erik Bais

Nice, I didn't see that. Then I guess whoever set up this site was a shill for Cisco, I just love how instead of focusing on developing better products, that they are more about marketing now.

Cisco has always been about marketing from since Chambers took over way back when!

Does seem odd that Cisco would use Go Daddy. My first thought was a
disgruntled (ex) Juniper Employee. Then again, Juniper did bash Cisco in
its cartoon strips all those years. Payback???

Wow... If Cisco slides any further into mudslinging, I'll expect the company to run
for president.

Owen

Or possibly Cisco is trying to cover their tracks.

Owen

One:

Looks like some random person registered this one. The domain and ip do not
look related to cisco even though someone has falsely pasted their logo all
over the site.

Another:

Does seem odd that Cisco would use Go Daddy. My first thought was a
disgruntled (ex) Juniper Employee. Then again, Juniper did bash Cisco in
its cartoon strips all those years. Payback???

I'm bit surprised people actually think where campaign site is hosted and who
has registered domain can be used to predict who is responsible for it. Cisco
marketing probably have tons of webshops from whom they buy campaigns, what
ever company was responsibly for winning this bid happens to use godaddy and
rackspace.
Our marketing has bought campaigns which have been hosted in our competitors
networks, they don't understand to ask from the bidder where and how will the
pages be hosted.

Check out the White Papar referenced ....

http://www.overpromisesunderdelivers.net/pdfs/Why_Cisco_Not_Juniper.pdf

It has Cisco's usual White Paper format and their copyright stamped on the
bottom which is also dates "9/11". If it's not Cisco or one of it's
affiliates, I would expect them to be contacting their so called "Marketing"
folks anytime now.

If this really is Cisco .... i'm with Owen and expect a presidential bid
announcement any second now ....

Either way, it's pathetic. If someone is going to slander in the fashion the
site has done, they should at least put a contact form somewhere for some
feedback :slight_smile:

Slander means falsehood. Cisco tells lies ?

Slander means falsehood. Cisco tells lies ?

If you believe any vendors out there are white knights (telling no
lies) you may need a reality check.

Steinar Haug, Nethelp consulting, sthaug@nethelp.no

Define Cisco in your context please. Cisco marketing?? Cisco sales?? Cisco
TAC? Cisco product development??

I've been told several lies by some Cisco SE's that have worked with me, but
I wouldn't go as far to say "Cisco lies".

:slight_smile:

Cisco outsourced PR campaign? Wouldn't be the first time a company has hired a
shop, stuck a link to the result on their home page, and then been surprised by
what they linked to.

In any case, I'm sure *somebody* is having an uncomfortable conversation
in their supervisor's office this morning. :wink:

Lies? So who has 100G MX series cards then..?