On the control of the Internet.

> What happens? The master zone simply doesn't get updated until someone
> FedEx's a floppy. You know, some of us made these sorts of contingency
> plans long ago, back in days when the Internet actually wasn't all that
> reliable, and it wasn't completely unthinkable to be off the air for at
> least 24 hours.

Interesting plan.

I've got a Gateway computer down stairs that can write a 3.5 inch floppy
and a Micron tower (running Windows 2000 the last time it was powered
up) that can write 5 inch floppies.

If we want to be pedantic, Sony this year announced that it is shutting
down its production of floppy disks by next year. Of course, the choice
of "floppy disk" is irrelevant, and I'm guessing you know it. If your
devices are more comfortable with CD-ROM or USB MicroSD readers, then by
all means.

Long before NANOG, there was actually a time that some of us hauled
around things like USENET on magnetic media, because it was simply the
highest bandwidth yet cheapest method to haul large amounts of data
around the city, back when a Telebit Trailblazer was still vaguely able
to cope with a USENET feed - and for a little while thereafter.

When I left active administration in 2003, out of 30 or so machines
running BIND I can't recall one that has a floppy drive of any sort.

If your network has been so thoroughly taken over that you cannot hope
to get a file from a computer that does have a floppy over to your DNS
server, you have Much Bigger Problems to begin with...

> It's not that rough, these days, to install some monitoring to make sure
> that your zones are up to date on the secondaries and that they resolve
> names correctly; some operators used to even get really super-freakazoid
> and do zone transfers back to allow verification. Here, we draw the line
> at checking the SOA's for consistency and checking one other beacon record
> for resolvability. That's clearly not a solution aimed at warning about
> non-transferable zones; it raises some interesting questions. Think maybe
> I'll go asking on dnsops what, if anything, people do to monitor.

"monitor" implies connectivity. The OP was about the possibility that
the government would deny you connectivity. Please try to stay n topic.

Our monitoring systems are definitely able to detect when connectivity
goes away. What happens if and when that happens is generally left up
to a human to decide. The sorts of brokenness that one might potentially
discover if the government were to corrupt connectivity is much more
complex than simple on/off; I feel comfortable saying that the best plan
is to have diversity of resources and some in-depth knowledge, since that
also serves normal engineering needs well.

... JG

If we want to be pedantic, Sony this year announced that it is shutting
down its production of floppy disks by next year. Of course, the choice
of "floppy disk" is irrelevant, and I'm guessing you know it. If your
devices are more comfortable with CD-ROM or USB MicroSD readers, then by
all means.

I certainly hoped that that was the case, but not very long ago I read a
current "Emergency Recovery Plan" that depended on 9-track 1600BPI round
reel tapes in a shop that had not had a drive like that for ten years.

Long before NANOG, there was actually a time that some of us hauled
around things like USENET on magnetic media, because it was simply the
highest bandwidth yet cheapest method to haul large amounts of data
around the city, back when a Telebit Trailblazer was still vaguely able
to cope with a USENET feed - and for a little while thereafter.

Wide Band Truck was a major component of plans long ago.

And I wish I had a nickel for every round-real tape in Anvil case I
escorted through airports.

If your network has been so thoroughly taken over that you cannot hope
to get a file from a computer that does have a floppy over to your DNS
server, you have Much Bigger Problems to begin with...

And that is the issue I was trying to raise.

Our monitoring systems are definitely able to detect when connectivity
goes away. What happens if and when that happens is generally left up
to a human to decide. The sorts of brokenness that one might potentially
discover if the government were to corrupt connectivity is much more
complex than simple on/off; I feel comfortable saying that the best plan
is to have diversity of resources and some in-depth knowledge, since that
also serves normal engineering needs well.

I'll bet you think The Stimulus created jobs.