NSP ... New Information

I appreciate your interest and consideration. Your pride in using the legal
system to "enforce" your will leads me to caution. I suggest that your best
bet is to review the archives of the various mailing lists regarding the
discussions regarding address space delegations and the rational for
the criteria now in place. I will note that in general, the only consistant
thing that remains consistant is change. Attempting to set legal precedence
for a system that moves with as much rapidity as the Internet may be doomed.

A much better tact is to consider the various players in the field as partners
and friends, not combatents and enemies. I see a clear precident for sharing
and cooperation in helping entities grow to their fullest potential, while
not squandering precious resource. If you really need it, it is available.
Change the model and this may not be true anymore....

--bill

I appreciate your interest and consideration. Your pride in using the legal
system to "enforce" your will leads me to caution. I suggest that your best
bet is to review the archives of the various mailing lists regarding the
discussions regarding address space delegations and the rational for
the criteria now in place. I will note that in general, the only consistant
thing that remains consistant is change. Attempting to set legal precedence
for a system that moves with as much rapidity as the Internet may be doomed.

A much better tact is to consider the various players in the field as

partners

and friends, not combatents and enemies. I see a clear precident for sharing
and cooperation in helping entities grow to their fullest potential, while
not squandering precious resource. If you really need it, it is available.
Change the model and this may not be true anymore....

--bill

Bill, thank you I think [8-))

What do you understand to be the immediate utilization percentage for an
ISP's first /19?

I am truly and genuinely interested in your answer.

Thanks,

Larry Vaden, founder and CEO help-desk 903-813-4500
Internet Texoma, Inc. <http://www.texoma.net> direct 903-870-0365
bringing the real Internet to rural Texomaland fax 903-868-8551
Member ISP/C, TISPA and USIPA pager 903-867-6571

Well,
  Let me first say that this discussion likely belongs on PAGAN, and not,
NANOG, so why don't we move it over there? Secondly, its good to have you
back on the list Bill ;).

As a discussion starter, I believe that times have changed since RFC 2050
was written, and the document needs revision.

I appreciate your interest and consideration. Your pride in using the legal
system to "enforce" your will leads me to caution. I suggest that your best
bet is to review the archives of the various mailing lists regarding the
discussions regarding address space delegations and the rational for
the criteria now in place. I will note that in general, the only consistant
thing that remains consistant is change. Attempting to set legal precedence
for a system that moves with as much rapidity as the Internet may be doomed.

A much better tact is to consider the various players in the field as

partners

and friends, not combatents and enemies. I see a clear precident for sharing
and cooperation in helping entities grow to their fullest potential, while
not squandering precious resource. If you really need it, it is available.
Change the model and this may not be true anymore....

--bill

Justin W. Newton
Senior Network Architect
Priori Networks http://www.priori.net
ISP/C, Director at Large http://www.ispc.org