North America not interested in IP V6

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This article seems to imply that North American networks don't care about IP V6 while the rest of the world is suffering great hardship

http://www.msnbc.com/news/945119.asp

PS. Please don't shoot the messenger

2

Is there any truth to this anyway? Am I too idealistic to believe that
IP numbers will be equally alotted to APNIC, ARIN and RIPE and that this
has been the case all along?

I mean, there are certain entities in the US with /8:s and these might
have a specific advantage, but is this really a country/region thing when
it comes to open up previously RESERVED space?

3

The technical errors in this document make me seriously doubt this guy
knows anything at all about IPv6 (or IPv4 for that matter).

e.g.

"The versions created 30 years ago were 32 bits long. Each bit could hold a
number from one through nine. Under that scheme, there are 4.3 billion
different number combinations."

erm... since when did a "binary digit" have 9 possible values?

and

"IPv6 addresses are 132 bits. The resulting list of IP addresses is two
googles long, an enormous number. If you want to write it, it's a "3"
followed by 38 zeroes."

Ignoring the obvious error, I don't know what math's reference this guy is
using, but mine says that a google is 1e100, not 1.5e38...

The reference to 70% of people in Europe having a web enabled phone made me
laugh too... although I guess it could be true - my last 3 mobile phones
have all had WAP capability, but I don't know of anyone that actually uses
this feature.

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Is there any truth to this anyway? Am I too idealistic to believe that
IP numbers will be equally alotted to APNIC, ARIN and RIPE and that this
has been the case all along?

I mean, there are certain entities in the US with /8:s and these might
have a specific advantage, but is this really a country/region thing when
it comes to open up previously RESERVED space?

At least with current practise it�s not. RIRs get /8�s from IANA at
the pace they need them. When the last /8 goes out, then we�ll be
quite close to end of allocatable ipv4 space. Expect that to happen
early next decade.

Pete

5

.. but anyway: someone informed on planned role of
policyanalysismarket.org ?

Out of curiosity,

mh

6

: .. but anyway: someone informed on planned role of
: policyanalysismarket.org ?

They're headed to webpage Goobersville? It's just a page with a link to a
hosting company. WTF???

scott

tel policyanalysismarket.org 80

Trying 12.129.224.157...

Connected to policyanalysismarket.org.
Escape character is '^]'.

GET /

<html>
<head>
<style type="text/css">
body { font-family: verdana; }
</style>
<title>iPowerWeb</title>
</head>
<body>
<a href="http://www.ipowerweb.com">
<img src="http://www.ipowerweb.com/images/logo.gif&quot; border="0">
</a>
<p>
This is the default page for an iPowerWeb hosting server.
<p>
To visit our main page click <a href="http://www.ipowerweb.com">here</a>.
<br>
For technical support, please click <a
href="http://www.ipowerweb.com/helpcenter/index.html&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; or send an
email to <a href=mailto:support@ipowerweb.com>support@ipowerweb.com</a>.
</body>
</html>
Connection closed by foreign host.

7

Roy wrote:

This article seems to imply that North American networks don't care
about IP V6 while the rest of the world is suffering great hardship

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PS. Please don't shoot the messenger

Regardless of the content of the above, let me say that with the exception
of "the academic community" (including those in commercial orgs) no one in
Europe is interested either.

Peter

8

I think it's a question of price to create the service.

Newer plattforms have built in IPv6 in hardware so performance isn't an
issue, the code base is maturing which is also a very important step
forward.

In a couple of years it won't be so much an issue of "purchasing equipment
that can do IPv6" but more "turning it on" which is a huge difference when
it comes to creating a service and deploying it. When IPv6 is in almost
all newer IOSes and these get phased into production environments, I think
we'll see much more IPv6 than today.

I know that I am not alone in considering IPv6 ability of hardware I am
about to purchase that I believe will be around for 3-5 years.

9

Here at DE-CIX (www.de-cix.net) I can see that more and more ISP are joining
the IPv6 trial (http://www.de-cix.net/info/decix-ipv6/) . Currently already
20% of all ~120 ISP at DE-CIX have IPv6 enabled.

Arnold