new guest room SSID for NANOG

All,

The hotel is in the process of deploying an SSID throughout the guest room
network that terminates to the NANOG external router, rather than the
hotel's gateway.

The SSID is NANOG-guest.

They stated it will take a couple of hours to be fully operational in the
guest room space.

As always, please let me know if you have any questions.

Cheers,

Noah

Thanks!

Noah -

  Very nice... I also notice it's IPv6 enabled. :slight_smile:

Thanks!
/John

Very nice. I wonder if this is an option we could try to use in future meetings. It makes sense, really, since we already have decent connectivity for the conference areas, and we wouldn't be destroying the hotel's outside connection (only their WiFi :wink: )

-Randy

With enough leverage in the contracting process, you may be able to
get them to agree to allow such (particularly since it can be next
to impossible to get a configuration clueful person involved early
in the process...)

Whether they can actually deliver (i.e. do they have any control
over their own wireless network, any onsite staff that actually
knows networking, etc.) plus the potential liability that results
from changing that configuration is entirely another matter.

Nearly every hotel you contract with for the first time results in
a different scenario, but I agree it is worth keeping in mind for
the hotels that have competent on-site access since diverting the
hotel room traffic for conference attendees improves performance
for everyone.

/John

great idea. next, it would be nice to be able to get a dhcp address
from it

randy

Yay!! IPv6 in my room!

WOOT!

Owen

Very nice. I wonder if this is an option we could try to use in
future meetings. It makes sense, really, since we already have decent
connectivity for the conference areas, and we wouldn't be destroying
the hotel's outside connection (only their WiFi :wink: )

having negotiated or attempted to negotiate this as part of a number of
hotel contracts, I'd note that while nice to have this is not always
possible, so while I'd put it on the list, if it becomes a deal-breaker
it would substantially reduce the number of available venues or result
in payment of significant considerations to the hotel for the lost
revenue from non-nanog guests to the hotel, for whom internet is
generally an upsell unless included in their rate.

Very nice. I wonder if this is an option we could try to use in
future meetings. It makes sense, really, since we already have decent
connectivity for the conference areas, and we wouldn't be destroying
the hotel's outside connection (only their WiFi :wink: )

having negotiated or attempted to negotiate this as part of a number of
hotel contracts, I'd note that while nice to have this is not always
possible, so while I'd put it on the list, if it becomes a deal-breaker
it would substantially reduce the number of available venues or result
in payment of significant considerations to the hotel for the lost
revenue from non-nanog guests to the hotel, for whom internet is
generally an upsell unless included in their rate.

Should be pretty easy to convince the hotel that upselling NANOGers
internet isn't going to result in revenue unless their network somehow
miraculously handles the load.

Instead, they can look forward to ~500 people wanting that charge
reversed on checkout due to the hotel's inability to provide sufficient
capacity.

Owen

As has been said in other parts of this thread NANOG typically negotiates to have in room internet removed from the attendees bill.

Also +1 regarding what Joel and John have said regarding the business complexities surrounding making the conference network available in-room or otherwise manipulating the existing network infrastructure of the hotel. Its worth a try but sometimes it is just not practical to do this.