David Schwartz writes...
This outage was deliberately engineered by AGIS/NET99.
Is there something you expect the nanog list (community) to do? I
read this, and I share your concerns at what your allegations show
is either restraint of trade or tort interference... but why here? *
...
NET99's deliberate, malicious actions are contrary to the very
spirit of the Internet.
So far so good..
They resulted in DALnet (the third largest IRC network) being split
...
Yada yada yada. Look, if you have a serious complaint, stick to it.
Complaining about IRC is tantamount to saying "Hi, I'm without a clue
as to what is important and what isn't." Nobody is going to go to bat
for you because your IRC net was split. Try something more important
like "Our customers couldn't reach the net." I know it doesn't sound
exciting, but it strikes home for _everyone_ (almost) on this list.
Please excuse me if this is not the appropriate forum for discussing
this event.
David Schwartz
Director of Network Services
Internet Gateway Connections
(954)-430-3030
Respectfully,
Ehud
They resulted in DALnet (the third largest IRC network) being split
...
Yada yada yada. Look, if you have a serious complaint, stick to it.
Complaining about IRC is tantamount to saying "Hi, I'm without a clue
as to what is important and what isn't." Nobody is going to go to bat
for you because your IRC net was split. Try something more important
like "Our customers couldn't reach the net." I know it doesn't sound
exciting, but it strikes home for _everyone_ (almost) on this list.
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but these are semantically equivalent.
He was saying, "my customers couldn't reach the net."
IRC and other online chat systems may be amusing to you, but AOL makes
a substantial fraction of their millions by supporting that "mundane"
application on their system. I have no doubt that there are some ISP's
who take it equally seriously. It seems that IGC is one such.
Put another way, why should you care what the bits are? You're just
hired to route packets from A to B with some relatively high probability
of success. When you fail to do so, the customer will be upset,
regardless of how silly you think his application is. Do you really
want upset customers? Belittle their uses of the Internet, and I
promise you that they'll abandon your service for a more customer
oriented ISP quite rapidly.
from the peanut gallery at a $12B "toy" computer company,
Erik E. Fair apple!fair fair@apple.com
David Schwartz writes...
>This outage was deliberately engineered by AGIS/NET99.
Is there something you expect the nanog list (community) to do? I
read this, and I share your concerns at what your allegations show
is either restraint of trade or tort interference... but why here? *
I don't know. We'll likely be pursuing our own legal actions.
> NET99's deliberate, malicious actions are contrary to the very
>spirit of the Internet.
So far so good..
Thanks.
>They resulted in DALnet (the third largest IRC network) being split
...
Yada yada yada. Look, if you have a serious complaint, stick to it.
Complaining about IRC is tantamount to saying "Hi, I'm without a clue
as to what is important and what isn't." Nobody is going to go to bat
for you because your IRC net was split. Try something more important
like "Our customers couldn't reach the net." I know it doesn't sound
exciting, but it strikes home for _everyone_ (almost) on this list.
You are without a clue as to what is important to me and what is
important to my customers. Yes, our customers were cut off from their
customers. Forgive me for trying to mention something specific.