navog?

Hi,
Is anyone aware of a voip-focused group similar to nanog? Us voip pukes
have to deal with the issues of allocation, routing, and management of phone
numbers as well as networks, and I have not found a voice operators' group
similar to this network operators' group.

Thanks,

David

VOIPSA are focused on VoIP, mainly around security:

<http://www.voipsa.org/>

david hiers wrote:

Hi,
Is anyone aware of a voip-focused group similar to nanog? Us voip pukes
have to deal with the issues of allocation, routing, and management of phone
numbers as well as networks, and I have not found a voice operators' group
similar to this network operators' group.

Thanks,

David
  

Would kind of be difficult to maintain such a group. Which level of VoIP are
you talking about, the carrier end, the engineer end. Think about that for a
moment. For the most part, for issues regarding connectivity, VoIP is no
different than email is. Networks will be networks, VoIP will go down, life
goes on. Resolution can be found either directly through your vendor/carrier
or you can get a best guesstimate of an outage from the outages list or
someone
here shooting off a "Are Cogent and Level3 chest thumping again?" message.

On the other hand, I don't know that I'd want to see a multitude of messages
from someone saying "My trixbox dialplan doesn't work!" or, (broken english
purposely inserted) "Why my Cisco Call Manager is tell me to partition!
I does
not want to format my disk! Please is you help!" There are lists out
there but
each has its pros and cons. VoIPSA (VoIP Security) Cisco VoIP - for Cisco
related telephony, Digium mailing lists, etc. Something akin to NANOG for
VoIP would quickly become filled with "WTH is he/she saying" like messages.

Sadly, most of my cisco-voip and asterisk-users mail has been ending up in
the trash via filter. I wonder if my email client knows something I don't.

Actually, there is a quite active cisco-voip list over on puck that discusses exactly the CM issues you refer to. (I diverted everyone to that list to keep it off c-nsp and it seems to have grown since).

  - Jared

http://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip

Jared Mauch wrote:

david hiers wrote:

Hi,
Is anyone aware of a voip-focused group similar to nanog? Us voip
pukes
have to deal with the issues of allocation, routing, and management
of phone
numbers as well as networks, and I have not found a voice operators'
group
similar to this network operators' group.

Thanks,

David

On the other hand, I don't know that I'd want to see a multitude of
messages
from someone saying "My trixbox dialplan doesn't work!" or, (broken
english
purposely inserted) "Why my Cisco Call Manager is tell me to partition!

    Actually, there is a quite active cisco-voip list over on puck
that discusses exactly the CM issues you refer to. (I diverted
everyone to that list to keep it off c-nsp and it seems to have grown
since).

    - Jared

cisco-voip Info Page

(removed cc's to avoid sending dupes)

Agreed, I browse through some of the stuff there and indeed it works
for cisco telephony matters. Cisco staff has provided some really
good guidance on matters there, as have Digium staffers for Asterisk's
mailing list. But I can't really envision an "all inclusive" VoIP list with
regards to the carrier end, equipment end, programming end, etc.
Heaven knows I would have like to discuss Nortel and Avaya matters
countless times but then those conversations would have actually
ended up shifting towards SIP in which to a degree, they wouldn't
have even had anything to do with the vendors at all. So I view it
as a tough call.

Anyhow, perhaps links should be included:

VOIPSA : VOIPSEC : Overview (VoIPSA - VoIP Security related)
cisco-voip Info Page (Cisco VoIP related)
asterisk-users Info Page (Asterisk Users)
Yahoo | Mail, Weather, Search, Politics, News, Finance, Sports & Videos (SIP Config (mainly spam now))
http://sipforum.org/pipermail/discussion/index.html (SIP forum)

One more: isp-voiceoverip
(http://isp-lists.isp-planet.com/isp-voiceoverip/resources/). Pretty quiet,
though.

Frank

VoIP related issues is one of the reason I lurk here.

On carrier routing side voice (including VoIP) is still a closed network.

The group has given references for vendor oriented the efforts of the
i3forum http://www.i3forum.org/
John Todd has a list called freenum http://www.freenum.org/ which may proof
useful.
IPTELs http://www.iptel.org/ SER group is a good place for a lot of
discussion and you should look at the diverging links at OpenSER.
Everything else is someone closed. GSMA IPX, ENUM, etc.

If you have specific groups you are looking to talk to I have some further
references. And you can contact me directly.

Kind Regards,

carl