NAP Architecture

[In the message entitled "Re: NAP Architecture" on Oct 29, 9:06, the Riz writes:]

This *is* becoming more popular; in the US, the main problem is that many
(most?) of the exchange points are operated by telcos, who are tariffed.
This means that any connection between separate entities is a "circuit"
that they must charge a certain minimum amount for. As more telcos manage
to move their exchange point operations into the non-regulated portion of
their respected businesses, this may change, and exchanges are currently
being built by non-telco entities, which are allowed to have more
reasonable charges to connect cages in the same facility together.
(Disclaimer: in my other life, I work for one such facility... the PAIX in
Palo Alto)

I'm confused. PAIX charges a similar amount ($1000/mo) for dry copper
between two consenting parties at PAIX. Again, for $27 worth of wire,
and $300 worth of labour? This is reasonable?

IMHO, $50/month is reasonable for copper cross-connects, with a $300
installation charge. Even $100 per month. But $1000?

Dave Rand wrote:

[In the message entitled "Re: NAP Architecture" on Oct 29, 9:06, the
Riz writes:]
>
> This *is* becoming more popular; in the US, the main problem is that
many
> (most?) of the exchange points are operated by telcos, who are
tariffed.
> This means that any connection between separate entities is a
"circuit"
> that they must charge a certain minimum amount for. As more telcos
manage
> to move their exchange point operations into the non-regulated
portion of
> their respected businesses, this may change, and exchanges are
currently
> being built by non-telco entities, which are allowed to have more
> reasonable charges to connect cages in the same facility together.
> (Disclaimer: in my other life, I work for one such facility... the
PAIX in
> Palo Alto)
>

I'm confused. PAIX charges a similar amount ($1000/mo) for dry copper

between two consenting parties at PAIX. Again, for $27 worth of wire,

and $300 worth of labour? This is reasonable?

IMHO, $50/month is reasonable for copper cross-connects, with a $300
installation charge. Even $100 per month. But $1000?

You could always go wireless and not tell anybody :wink:

In fact, if the traffic were not too bad a few interconnects could sit
on
a small wireless LAN nicely....

Is that $1000 a MONTH or just a one-off installation charge?

I'm confused. PAIX charges a similar amount ($1000/mo) for dry copper
between two consenting parties at PAIX. Again, for $27 worth of wire,
and $300 worth of labour? This is reasonable?

IMHO, $50/month is reasonable for copper cross-connects, with a $300
installation charge. Even $100 per month. But $1000.

I think if the price were negligible (say <$250/month per) then there
would be a considerably strong economic incentive to not connect to the
switch fabric at all. Smaller peers could connect to a switch/hub that
connected by (say FE) into the same port, larger peers/customers can
connect through dedicated ports resulting in a lower overall charge per
megabit thruput.

(20 FE connections * 30Mbit/s sustained each = 600Mbit/s for $5000/month)

-Deepak.