Microsoft spokesperson blames ICANN

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Super-redundant DNS hosting would make a good product. Akamai maybe?

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seems to me if a company bought a dedicated server in a couple of
dozen of the largest hosting sites, that might be enough.
you could run dns, remote network monitoring, traffic stats, whatever.

does anyone out there know of such a service?

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Nominum has one. See
  http://www.nominum.com/GNS/index.html

  --asp@partan.com (Andrew Partan)

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Akamai does it for yahoo and a few others, firstpoint I beleive is the
service name..

Matt

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That's what Nominum's GNS service is. It's hosting some cc-tlds and
whatnot at the moment, although they haven't started selling it to smaller
customers yet. http://www.nominum.com/GNS/index.html No details on the
site, but David Conrad or Paul Vixie or I can tell you more about it.
Basically it's a global network of redundant pairs of heterogenous
nameservers (Solaris on Netra UltraSparc and NetBSD on IBM Netfinity x86)
with IP Anycast so you always get the nearest pair. For example:

MAE-West Looking Glass Results
Tracing the route to gns1.nominum.net (198.133.199.1)
  1 mae-west.above.net (198.32.136.31) 0 msec 0 msec 4 msec
  2 core1-core2-oc3-2.sjc6.above.net (209.133.31.177) [AS 6461] 0 msec 4
  3 pao1-sjc6-oc12.pao1.above.net (207.126.96.54) [AS 6461] 4 msec 0 msec
  4 64.124.11.252.nominum.com (64.124.11.252) [AS 6461] 0 msec 0 msec 4
  5 gns1.nominum.net (198.133.199.1) [AS 17204] 4 msec 0 msec 0 msec

MAE-East Looking Glass Results
Tracing the route to gns1.nominum.net (198.133.199.1)
  1 iad1-core4-pos1-0.atlas.icix.net (165.117.52.186) 4 msec 0 msec 0 msec
  2 dca6-core2-pos1-3.atlas.icix.net (165.117.63.5) 0 msec 4 msec 0 msec
  3 dca6-core3-pos7-0.atlas.icix.net (165.117.48.110) 0 msec 4 msec 0 msec
  4 above-digex-oc3.iad.above.net (216.200.127.113) 0 msec 0 msec 4 msec
  5 core5-core3-oc48.iad1.above.net (208.185.0.150) [AS 6461] 0 msec 4
  6 core2-iad1-oc48.iad5.above.net (216.200.127.14) [AS 6461] 0 msec 4
  7 above-gw.nominum.com (216.200.105.54) [AS 6461] 4 msec 4 msec 0 msec
  8 gns1.nominum.net (198.133.199.1) [AS 17204] 4 msec 4 msec 0 msec

Both of those traces are running through AboveNet, but locations are BGP
transit multi-homed and peer with a lot of providers, and since it's
stateless UDP transactions, all the fail-over is transparent anyway.

                                -Bill

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UltraDNS

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ultradns does this and has a great product.

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www.microsoft.com is already a CNAME for www.microsoft.akadns.net, aka,
Akamai =) (Didn't I hear microsoft touting it's wonderful clustering/load
balancing features in W2k?)

    -poptix

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>www.microsoft.com is already a CNAME for www.microsoft.akadns.net, aka,
>Akamai =) (Didn't I hear microsoft touting it's wonderful clustering/load
>balancing features in W2k?)

<simple statement of fact which everyone prolly already knows>
Please note that if you cannot get a reply from the authoritative name server for [domain].[foo], you cannot be given the CNAME for a host.
</simple statement of fact which everyone prolly already knows>

(No comment on the reliability of Windows is intended.)

> -poptix

TTFN,
patrick

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[ On Thursday, January 25, 2001 at 02:08:45 (-0600), poptix@sleepybox.poptix.net wrote: ]

Subject: Re: Microsoft spokesperson blames ICANN

www.microsoft.com is already a CNAME for www.microsoft.akadns.net, aka,
Akamai =)

It doesn't matter what a CNAME points to if you can't even get it.

BTW, welcome back Microsoft! (not! :slight_smile:

  $ host -a www.microsoft.com
  Nameserver not responding
  www.microsoft.com ANY record not found, try again
  
  $ host -C microsoft.com
  microsoft.com NS DNS5.CP.MSFT.NET
  Nameserver DNS5.CP.MSFT.NET not responding
  microsoft.com SOA record not found at DNS5.CP.MSFT.NET, try again
  microsoft.com NS DNS7.CP.MSFT.NET
  Nameserver DNS7.CP.MSFT.NET not reachable
  microsoft.com SOA record not found at DNS7.CP.MSFT.NET, try again
  microsoft.com NS DNS6.CP.MSFT.NET
  Nameserver DNS6.CP.MSFT.NET not reachable
  microsoft.com SOA record not found at DNS6.CP.MSFT.NET, try again
  microsoft.com NS DNS4.CP.MSFT.NET
  Nameserver DNS4.CP.MSFT.NET not reachable
  microsoft.com SOA record not found at DNS4.CP.MSFT.NET, try again

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Sorry, I read his post after someone mentioned Akamai, somehow my brain
crossed the two and I responded to this one, I'm well aware of the
limitations that lack of internet connectivity impose on DNS servers =)