Managed, cheap, DC power switches

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I have a need for cheap managed DC power switches for our OSS and
Monitoring (backoffice). I was wondering what everyone else have
found in this space. I am currently using Cisco 2950's, but those are
still 2.5K list and seems like too much to spend on something so
trivial.

I am looking for something with:
* Better port density (48 ports per 1U), but 24 ports would work.
* IOS like configuration (not needed, but would be nice not to
crosstrain my team) I really don't want anything that is Web only.
* CHEAP. The gear is mostly just for monitoring and big backplanes
and features are not really needed.

Thanks,

Brandon

2

2.5K? No way. Get used or refurbished from Network Hardware or similar outlet. We rarely buy new. Used gear works just fine.

3

Or at least buy Cisco refurb and save $$$...:wink:

We have lots of 2950's in use ... moving to 2960's for low end
applications currently - then moving to 3560 etc from there....

You might also checkout the Express500 stuff... more basic switch and
priced right.....

Paul

4

Indeed. I just had to put my hands on my GBICs and a module for a
4200vl on short notice, and conveniently, Network Liquidators is about
30 miles from me. The sales rep, with the unlikely name of Bill
Billings (which isn't as unusual, admittedly, as Courtney Courtney),
was quite helpful and almost unreasonably solicitous. I don't actually
know: is $200 for a new aftermarket multimode GBIC a deal? :slight_smile:

Cheers,
-- jra

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Paul Stewart wrote:

Or at least buy Cisco refurb and save $$$...:wink:

We have lots of 2950's in use ... moving to 2960's for low end
applications currently - then moving to 3560 etc from there....

You might also checkout the Express500 stuff... more basic switch and
priced right.....

Paul

Please, stay away from the Express 500 stuff if you value your time!

The technical term for the Catalyst Express line is "crap" .

As in "oh crap, the network is not working again..."

--Patrick

6

try getting a 2980G-A switch off of ebay. for 100bucks you get an 80
port 10/100 switch. sure it's EoL/EoS already but it works pretty
well.

cisco refurbished equipment will save you a lot of money. I've been
dealing with these guys:

duane and withlow

www.dwc-computer.com/

www.network-liquidators.com

7

***.network-liquidators.***

I am amazed that two people now have spoken positively about these folks.
I had to threaten to get them to stop contacting me...and if I get one
more phone call *&Q@$)(^%#

I'll add that the pricing on the initial quote I requested for a used
3640A and NM-2W was not even attractive.

~JasonG

8

Well, I called them, on a recommendation, rather than the other way
around... but several people have suggested to me off-list that the
premium I paid them for the parts I needed wasn't really justified by
the fact that it was July 3rd. :-}

Cheers,
-- jra

9

I was not talking about network liquidators...I was referring to Network Hardware Resale (NHR)-different company. Good quality gear. Good service.

http://www.networkhardware.com/

10

I purchased my GSR8 from NHR, 2 DC power supplies and it arrived missing one of the plastic protective covers, hardly mission critical but it arrived fedex, the next day and I didn't need to call them on it. VERY happy with NHR

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[ Network Liquidators ]

Well, I called them, on a recommendation, rather than the other way
around... but several people have suggested to me off-list that the
premium I paid them for the parts I needed wasn't really justified by
the fact that it was July 3rd. :-}

For what it's worth, I gave the sales rep what-for about the price, and
he gave it back to me, telling me that ProCurve switches will only
accept ProCurve(-compatible) SFP GBICs, which cost more, both because
they're compatible, and because they're SFP.

Cheers,
-- jra

12

Jay R. Ashworth wrote:

For what it's worth, I gave the sales rep what-for about the price, and
he gave it back to me, telling me that ProCurve switches will only
accept ProCurve(-compatible) SFP GBICs, which cost more, both because
they're compatible, and because they're SFP.

Recent ProCurve switches only accept "rev B" modules; I have a new-ish switch that won't accept a pile of Finisar optics that did work in older HP switches. I don't know what the difference between "rev B" and older ones are, though.

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Seth Mattinen wrote:

Recent ProCurve switches only accept "rev B" modules; I have a new-ish switch that won't accept a pile of Finisar optics that did work in older HP switches. I don't know what the difference between "rev B" and older ones are, though.

Probably about $100 :slight_smile:

Jeff

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Specifically, that rep (Bill Billings) told me that a *firware upgrade*
broke compatibility with the old GBICs, which *originally* worked, and
he ended up eating nearly 300 of them at one point.

But we're probably off topic now. :slight_smile:

Cheers,
-- jra

15

This reason is twofold, one is Resellers were just buying whatever cheap
gbics they could and bundling them with Procurve switches (I'm sure this
happens to other vendors too). Thus most of the profitable parts of
switch sales were being eroded by the resellers.

The other is that Procurve offers a lifetime warranty on most (possibly
all) of their products, including gbics I believe, thus the premium. I
believe you can just RMA a Procurve GBIC, and they will send you a new
one, no receipts, no worries, no expiration, no service contract.

He shouldn't have to eat 300 gbics unless he bought non-Procurve ones to
begin with. HP should be able to exchange/reprogram them if they were
HP Gbics.

Steve

From: Jay R. Ashworth [mailto:jra@baylink.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 1:32 PM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: OT: GBIC compatibility and pricing (was Managed, cheap,DC

power switches)

> Jay R. Ashworth wrote:
> >For what it's worth, I gave the sales rep what-for about the price,

and

> >he gave it back to me, telling me that Procurve switches will only
> >accept Procurve(-compatible) SFP GBICs, which cost more, both

because

> >they're compatible, and because they're SFP.
>
> Recent Procurve switches only accept "rev B" modules; I have a

new-ish

> switch that won't accept a pile of Finisar optics that did work in

older

> HP switches. I don't know what the difference between "rev B" and

older

> ones are, though.

Specifically, that rep (Bill Billings) told me that a *firware

upgrade*

broke compatibility with the old GBICs, which *originally* worked, and
he ended up eating nearly 300 of them at one point.

But we're probably off topic now. :slight_smile:

Cheers,
-- jra
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I think this vendor-supported SFP was big issue from HP ethernet switch
since it was appeared from HP ethernet switch firmware upgrade without
much attention.
It should be standard, so it shouldn't matter which vender's SFP is.
But since HP decided to stick with their own SFP, some third party
vendor starts to ask for which vendor's equipment to be used with SFP,
and they programmed firmware to simulate specific vendor's SFP by
placing vendor code or something like that.

Sometimes when I ordered specific vendor's Part Number for SFP from
specific vendor's reseller, still it is delivered with third party
vendor's SFP.
I don't know whether reseller is making money because of price
difference, or not.

Hyun

Steve Dalberg wrote:

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On a related topic, I walked the SNMP on the switch, and I don't see a
way to read the SFF8472 DOM parameters out; anyone got a pointer?

Cheers,
-- jra