I heard a rumor that the InterNic is no longer going to make contact
information public. Is this true? If I do a "whois," will I no longer
get contact info? Can someone shed light on this rumor?
Thanks,
Lincoln Silver
I didn't hear anything like that from the various NSI
folks at ISPCON; doesn't mean it isn't true, but I'd
say it's unlikely.
More likely, this is a misunderstanding of what they
/did/ do, which is stop making the zone files for .COM,
.NET, and .ORG anonymously FTP'able.
If you can prove you've got a good reason to FTP 'em,
they'll give you a login and password; I know of a few
people who've done it already.
For more rumours of this type, check out the inet-access
mailing list, <inet-access-request@earth.com>.
> I heard a rumor that the InterNic is no longer going to make contact
> information public. Is this true? If I do a "whois," will I no longer
> get contact info? Can someone shed light on this rumor?I didn't hear anything like that from the various NSI
folks at ISPCON; doesn't mean it isn't true, but I'd
say it's unlikely.
Whois info is available, but not in quantity. It appears that InterNIC
will cut connections after dumping too much data out from the same host in
"X" period of time. I have not 100% confirmed this, but tests seem to show
it.
More likely, this is a misunderstanding of what they
/did/ do, which is stop making the zone files for .COM,
.NET, and .ORG anonymously FTP'able.
Nor are they axfr-able from anything but F.root-servers.net.
If you can prove you've got a good reason to FTP 'em,
they'll give you a login and password; I know of a few
people who've done it already.
And sign an NDA....
Robert Nelson
President, INTERNOC(tm)
rnelson@internoc.com
+1.210.299.4662
Untrue. I sent a one line description of why I wanted access,
which basically amounted to "I just want access" and was quickly
provided with a login and password. I signed nothing and made
no representations about what else I might do with the data.
My advice: believe all hearsay and rumor, especially if they come to you
from unknown sources.
-OR-
Read about it from the NIC web site: www.netsol.com - and maybe call their
customer support: I hear they've set up a "Conspiracy Theory Hot-Line" -
but that's just a rumor.
1-888-dom-inat
I've also heard that. Another rumor is that Domain Name Registration is
going to now cost $250/year, instead of $50/year. Class C address space
is going to cost you $2500/year. The $9.95/month ISPs are out of
business. What's this going to do to the small and struggling businesses
out there? Class B networks are now going to cost $637500 at that price.
So, look for prices on everything to start going up to cover the costs for
your upstream providers.
Joe Shaw - jshaw@insync.net
NetAdmin - Insync Internet Services
"Learn more, and you will never starve." - Paraphrase of Lee
I've also heard that. Another rumor is that Domain Name Registration is
going to now cost $250/year, instead of $50/year.
Haven't heard that one, but I doubt they'd be that stupid.
Class C address space
is going to cost you $2500/year. The $9.95/month ISPs are out of
business. What's this going to do to the small and struggling businesses
out there? Class B networks are now going to cost $637500 at that price.
So, look for prices on everything to start going up to cover the costs for
your upstream providers.
That one I have heard. The actual pricing structure in the
early ARIN proposals (http://www.arin.net/) was scalable;
it was never $2500 per class C unless you're getting them
one at a time, in non-contiguous blocks.
These kinds of conspiracy theories are on literally dozens
of other mailing lists, including NAIPR and PAGAN.
Please note the reply-to.
Sorry, I was not clear. I believe this is the case for the WHOIS data, not
the Zone data. (why would you need and NDA for zone data?)
Rob Nelson
rnelson@internoc.com
There was a discussion of ARIN at ISPCON where Kim H. explained the
funding policy in great detail to the people present. In this case
the
$2500/yr is not for each /24 registered but an annual fee paid by the
ISP to buy service from ARIN (for one year) for their overall address
allocation. If your total allocation is > /24 and < /19 then you only
pay
$2500 for that year. If it it over that then you pay for whichever
tier you
fall into.
At first glance I thought the policy was somewhat lopsided against an
an ISP who is at the low end's of each tier. (n^2 per address bit and
all),
but the proposal clearly states that this is just their initial
guidelines
and once ARIN is formed it will be the responsibility of the ISP's
who
make the effort to join ARIN to set policy, including fees, tiers and
renewal rates.
Paul Erkkila
Frontier IOAC
J.D. Falk wrote:
Yeah, I thought that information sounded a bit overboard. Thanks to
everyone who cleared that up.
Joe Shaw - jshaw@insync.net
NetAdmin - Insync Internet Services
"Learn more, and you will never starve." - Paraphrase of Lee