IPv6 Transit?

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Hi,

Does anyone have any info on IPv6 deployment at the Tier-1 / Tier-1.5 level?

We are multi-homed to both Level3 and Abovenet in the UK and Level3 only
in the US.
Level3 did have a promising sounding beta program last year but that
seems to have stalled. Abovenet apparently have no schedule to deploy v6
at the moment.

I would like to be able to v6 enable our network but without a transit
provider that�s going to prove a bit tricky.

Any thoughts appreciated!

Cheers,
Mat Sharpe
Qube Networks Ltd

P.S. I hope I�m not about to re-start the who is/is not a Tier-1 /
Tier-2 argument! :slight_smile:

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Hi,

Does anyone have any info on IPv6 deployment at the Tier-1 / Tier-1.5 level?

We are multi-homed to both Level3 and Abovenet in the UK and Level3 only
in the US.

The big question with IPv6, from a provider perspective, is of course:
what kind of address space do you have and if none what kind do you
require. Or otherwise put: how do you want to 'multihome' ("oh not that
discussion again" :wink:

Level3 did have a promising sounding beta program last year but that
seems to have stalled. Abovenet apparently have no schedule to deploy v6
at the moment.

I haven't seen a connection request from Level3 towards GRH yet, thus I
think it is indeed mostly non-existent (correct me if I am wrong ;).
I do hope for them they resolve that sooner or later though.

I would like to be able to v6 enable our network but without a transit
provider that’s going to prove a bit tricky.

Try to get native connectivity where possible, when not, you can always
throw a tunnel to the upstream. Do try to keep your tunnel to match up
with your existing infrastructure as closely as possible. Also see
http://ip6.de.easynet.net/ipv6-minimum-peering.txt for more details on
that subject. Doc is already becoming of age but works pretty well.

Next to that you might want to check out a list like:
http://lists.cluenet.de/mailman/listinfo/ipv6-ops
which contains a good deal of of the global IPv6 operational folks,
usually nice and quiet but when you yell you will get an answer.

Any thoughts appreciated!

Check for yourself, who has at least some connectivity and what kind of
routes they are carrying, which can tell things about the connectivity
they provide by looking at GRH: Ghost Route Hunter :: SixXS - IPv6 Deployment & Tunnel Broker

I know that a number of folks at least had good experiences with amongst
others (alpha order): Cable & Wireless (1273), Easynet (4589), Global
Crossing (3549), NTT (2914), Sprint (6175), Tiscali (3257), UPC/Aorta
(6830), Verio (2914).

Most of these you can see and checkup in GRH. Of course real-life
experience can only be told by the folks actually buying their services
also a lot depends on where one is located.

P.S. I hope I’m not about to re-start the who is/is not a Tier-1 /
Tier-2 argument! :slight_smile:

Just tie them together into the Internet and all is fine :wink:

Greets,
Jeroen

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Does anyone have any info on IPv6 deployment at the Tier-1 / Tier-1.5
level?
We are multi-homed to both Level3 and Abovenet in the UK and Level3 only
in the US.
Level3 did have a promising sounding beta program last year but that
seems to have stalled. Abovenet apparently have no schedule to deploy v6
at the moment.
I would like to be able to v6 enable our network but without a transit
provider that�s going to prove a bit tricky.

Hi all,

The Level 3 IPv6 beta is still running. Those (peers and customers)
directly connected to AS3356 who are interested should drop a mail to;
dl-ipv6-support@level3.com

Regards,
StewartB

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Hi Mat,

I'm not sure what providers are already present in your area, may be will be
easier if you mention some of the choices you have.

In general I will say that you can rely on companies such as Global
Crossing, Teleglobe, NTT/Verio, Tiscali, Sparkle/Seabone, TIWS, OpenTransit,
Cable&Wireless, etc. (they are not in any specific preference order, just as
they come to my mind right now).

But there are many more. I'm actually trying to have a web page with a
listing of all the IPv6-ready Telcos and ISPs in the world. Some information
is available at http://www.ipv6tf.org/guide/organizations/services/isp.php
and for IXs at http://www.ipv6tf.org/guide/organizations/services/ix.php,
but not updated at the time being.

The updated web page will be ready, hopefully, next week, and I will be
happy to get all the people which already provides IPv6 services, contacting
me with a URL to a page that describe the available services, so we can make
sure they are included in that web page.

Thanks in advance for your cooperation on that !

Regards,
Jordi

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Hi All,

Frequently updated source for the IXs bit...

https://www.euro-ix.net/isp/choosing/list

Some IXs have member lists with an IPv6 column :slight_smile:

Also on https://www.euro-ix.net/isp/choosing/search/matrix.php

...there is a "Number of IPv6 customers" column that some may find interesting! :wink:

IMHO, local peerings (through IXs) are an important part when trying to setup an IPv6 service. But without the transit part solved, perhaps the best way is to wait (i'm not really a tunnel fan...).
The real way forward is to ask(&pay) for IPv6 to upstream providers (when your customers start to ask/demand for it).

Best Regards,

./Carlos

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I have IPv6 transit from Level3 in Europe. It did not become native by
the end of 2005 as we were told, but even if it's still tunneled the
service is decent.
It's not top quality, but it's also *much* better than what I get from
Sprint which has just an handful of routers, *terrible* paths over high
latency tunnels and is still using 6bone addresses in their backbone.

The most noticeable issue is that Level3 peers with a very small number
of other IPv6 networks, but the paths are usually good.

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Hello,

Some information
is available at http://www.ipv6tf.org/guide/organizations/services/isp.php

Can you add NDSoftware in the list ?

Thank you

Best Regards,