Hi,
I'm curious on how regional RIR which allocates ip address, verifies the
usage pattern info provided by their members in their application process.
Especially ISP requesting for additional allocations (80% utilization, adhered
policies etc). Thanks.
I'm curious on how regional RIR which allocates ip address, verifies
the
usage pattern info provided by their members in their application
process.
It's quite simple, really.
They ask for it.
If the iformation that you provided with your application
does not answer their questions, they ask you for more
information. I assume that all the RIRs will sign an
NDA with you, certainly ARIN does this. ARIN may also
ask for corporate confidential information in order to
verify your application so they have strict internal
security policies to keep it confidential.
Some people send detailed network diagrams, purchase
orders for routers/switches/circuits, sales history
data with projected trends, customer lists, etc.
Same as other most other filings: A signed and notarized statement from a
company officer, with third party audit from an established accounting firm...
Wait, I'm using 2012 guidelines. Use Michael Dillon's answer for now.
A more interesting question might be: How does the community think an
RIR should best verify information in the application process today, and
should that change as we approach the IPv4 event horizon?
I think the current ARIN policies are probably reasonable. I'm not at
all sure there's an economically justifiable reason to be even *more*
due-diligence as the event horizon approaches. Currently, ARIN more or
less trusts the data on the application (and relies on details to catch
hinky stuff - if you claim a need for a /12, and are feeding it off one
DS-3, there's probably something odd going on). As the clouds on the
horizon approach, those who haven't been building IPv6 arks are going
to get desperate. It's hard to say what amount of effort ARIN should
put into detecting a "sufficiently sophisticated" attempt at outright
fraud on the applicant's part.
At some point, it will become cheaper to just deploy IPv6 than to do the
things needed to get more IPv4 space.
What's this week's forcast for the event horizon, anyhow? It keeps moving
around....
At some point, it will become cheaper to just deploy IPv6 than to do the
things needed to get more IPv4 space.
What's this week's forcast for the event horizon, anyhow? It keeps moving
around....
That's what I'd like to know. Is the DoD "deadline" going to motivate anyone? When are we going to be able to announce IPv6 blocks through the major backbones, etc.?
Or is Google simply going to require IPv6 and overnight it will happen?
ARIN is in a tricky place. It has to be open, fair, efficient, and able to keep a secret. Open - listens to the industry without requiring any membership. Fair - policies apply to all on face value. Efficient - low cost to the industry. Keeping secrets - holding confidential data used to justify resource allocations.
As long as there is trust, the most efficient way is to rely on what an applicant (for space) claims. Once trust breaks down, all sorts of verification is needed.
There are two parts to this. One is what is appropriate for ARIN to rely upon to verify an application. The other is what is an appropriate way for a third party to question the allocation of resources.
I mentioned IRIS above because it is more or less WhoIs-on-steroids. One of it's features is the ability to authenticate the client, therefore various clients can be authorized to see different (in detail) data. E.g., to the casual observer, 258.127.3.123 belongs to "private residence" but to ARIN it belongs to Homer Simpson of Springfield. (ARIN can then verify that the addresses in 258.127.3/24 are assigned to different residences.)
I'm guilty here of throwing out a solution before the problem. I'm doing this to say that although there is a problem (not as in "we gotta solve this now" problem) and it is quite undefined (how does a third party appeal an allocation, and how does ARIN defend a decision?), we have tools available to work on this already.
Ooh, look, something that looks like a nail. Let me hit it with my IRIS hammer.