Internet router

Can someone tell me who own this router IP 65.198.220.90?

I am unable to reach destination IPs when I send a source addr of 70.0.0.0.

I am trying to determine if this 70.0.0.0 addr space is being blocked.

Ronald W. Jean

Network Engineer

Miller Technologies Group LLC

973.676.3152

973.676.3153

www.millertechgrp.com

Ronald.Jean@millertechgrp.com

Can someone tell me who own this router IP 65.198.220.90?

http://ws.arin.net/whois/?queryinput=!%20NET-65-198-220-0-1

Ronald W. Jean

Network Engineer

Hmm.

traceroute would also have shown you enlightening things...
6 0.so-6-0-0.XL1.IAD8.ALTER.NET (152.63.38.129) 3.316 ms 3.437 ms 3.607
ms
7 POS6-0.GW5.IAD8.ALTER.NET (152.63.36.53) 4.809 ms 5.233 ms 4.755 ms
8 broadwing-iad-gw.customer.alter.net (157.130.48.118) 5.055 ms 4.853
ms 4.841 ms
9 P5-0-0.p0.maee.broadwing.net (216.140.8.10) 4.798 ms 4.556 ms 4.481
ms
10 216.140.8.173 (216.140.8.173) 4.708 ms 4.434 ms 4.500 ms
11 so-7-2-0.c1.atln.broadwing.net (216.140.8.22) 15.568 ms 15.987 ms
15.456 ms
12 216.140.12.10 (216.140.12.10) 17.065 ms 16.885 ms 17.067 ms
13 67.98.191.78 (67.98.191.78) 27.217 ms 27.111 ms 26.675 ms
14 66.110.192.17 (66.110.192.17) 26.679 ms 33.820 ms 27.168 ms
15 65.198.220.90 (65.198.220.90) 31.134 ms 30.855 ms 36.058 ms

even though it seems 'georgia public web' might have absconded with some
uunet ip space :frowning:

-Chris

How so ???

UUNET Technologies, Inc. UUNET65 (NET-65-192-0-0-1)
                                  65.192.0.0 - 65.223.255.255
GEORGIA PUBLIC WEB UU-65-198-220-D4 (NET-65-198-220-0-1)
                                  65.198.220.0 - 65.198.221.255

when the ARIN whois seems to indicate this is "allocated" space from UUNET.

> > > Can someone tell me who own this router IP 65.198.220.90?
> >
> > http://ws.arin.net/whois/?queryinput=!%20NET-65-198-220-0-1
>
> traceroute would also have shown you enlightening things...
> 6 0.so-6-0-0.XL1.IAD8.ALTER.NET (152.63.38.129) 3.316 ms 3.437 ms 3.607
> ms
> 7 POS6-0.GW5.IAD8.ALTER.NET (152.63.36.53) 4.809 ms 5.233 ms 4.755 ms
> 8 broadwing-iad-gw.customer.alter.net (157.130.48.118) 5.055 ms 4.853
> ms 4.841 ms
> 9 P5-0-0.p0.maee.broadwing.net (216.140.8.10) 4.798 ms 4.556 ms 4.481
> ms
> 10 216.140.8.173 (216.140.8.173) 4.708 ms 4.434 ms 4.500 ms
> 11 so-7-2-0.c1.atln.broadwing.net (216.140.8.22) 15.568 ms 15.987 ms
> 15.456 ms
> 12 216.140.12.10 (216.140.12.10) 17.065 ms 16.885 ms 17.067 ms
> 13 67.98.191.78 (67.98.191.78) 27.217 ms 27.111 ms 26.675 ms
> 14 66.110.192.17 (66.110.192.17) 26.679 ms 33.820 ms 27.168 ms
> 15 65.198.220.90 (65.198.220.90) 31.134 ms 30.855 ms 36.058 ms
>
> even though it seems 'georgia public web' might have absconded with some
> uunet ip space :frowning:
>
> -Chris

How so ???

I lept then looked :slight_smile: actually it's all kosher. We've just had a rash of
this sort of thing lately. Most likely we just NOTICED the rash, it's
probably been festering for a while.

UUNET Technologies, Inc. UUNET65 (NET-65-192-0-0-1)
                                  65.192.0.0 - 65.223.255.255
GEORGIA PUBLIC WEB UU-65-198-220-D4 (NET-65-198-220-0-1)
                                  65.198.220.0 - 65.198.221.255

when the ARIN whois seems to indicate this is "allocated" space from UUNET.

as do many other things... processes don't always work as well as we'd
like, eh?

That's cool, just wanted to make sure _I_ was not missing something in the
translation as it were....

That somehow sums it up quite good.

El "why the webwhois?" mar.

elmi@4ever.de (Elmar K. Bins) wrote:

That somehow sums it up quite good.

Folks, I'm taking this back, seeing that the original poster is not alone.

Makes me wonder as to what current "network engineers" do know about the
world they do networking in. I - please forgive me if this seems far-fetched -
would have thought everybody doing "real" networking (as in "interconnecting
with other networks") would know where and how to look for that information
and how to interpret the usual tools' output.

Am I wrong?

Puzzled,
  Elmar.

That somehow sums it up quite good.

Folks, I'm taking this back, seeing that the original poster is not alone.

Makes me wonder as to what current "network engineers" do know about the
world they do networking in. I - please forgive me if this seems far-fetched -
would have thought everybody doing "real" networking (as in "interconnecting
with other networks") would know where and how to look for that information
and how to interpret the usual tools' output.

Am I wrong?

Yes, sadly you are...

Part of the problem is that during "dot-com boom" (shudder) a large number of people heard that network engineering was easy money and took a class at the local community college. They don't like networks, they don't care about connectivity, its just a job to them. They don't want to learn anything and so they don't.

Unlike some other engineering fields (I think that civil engineers are an example of this), you don't have to get any sort of certification / license to claim that you are a network *engineer*. I have met "Senior Network Engineers" who don't understand longest match rule ("The traffic will take 10/8 instead of 10.0.0.0/24 because it has a better admin distance", "I can override these 300 OSPF routes with a single static supernet", etc), who believe that routers will not route between directly connected interfaces without putting them into a routing protocol, that transit networks don't need a full mesh of iBGP[1] because "you can just redistribute BGP into [OSPF/IS-IS/IGP of choice], that ICMP uses TCP as a transport, etc. These are not simple brain-farts, there were all examples of deeply held beliefs that needed example networks built to convince the person otherwise (and the person who thought that routers would not route between directly connected networks without having the networks in a routing protocol still thinks that the example device was misfunctioning :frowning: ).

I am sure that there are other, much more scary examples out there, feel free to send me (humorous) examples, I need a laugh today...

Warren "Bitter today" Kumari
[1] Yeah, yeah, or route reflectors, or confeds, or.. or... or...

* Please note, this is not directed at Ronald at all, who I am assuming is clue-full but hadn't had coffee yet...

My finest "Dilbert moment"; it's over ten years old now, in fact.

Boss: Per, I need you to write much more comprehensive reports than
       you do now. I need much more detail.

Per: But ... but why? I already spend at least half a day every week
       writing reports.

Boss: So I can help you become more productive.

100% genuine true story.

It got so bad that if there was nothing to report (ie, no outages, no
problems, everything just worked) "Boss" was convinced we (network
techies) were either lying, or superfluous. But that was a long time
ago, I'm sure things have changed a lot ... :slight_smile:

Best,

  -- Per

bilse@networksignature.com (Per Gregers Bilse) wrote:

My finest "Dilbert moment"; it's over ten years old now, in fact.

[...]
*g*
It is _so_ true and so happens in probably 80% of the companies.

It got so bad that if there was nothing to report (ie, no outages, no
problems, everything just worked) "Boss" was convinced we (network
techies) were either lying, or superfluous.

I myself get that feeling sometimes. My boss doesn't, because he
always knows of one more project that could be done...nasty :slight_smile:

Elmar.