Hidden name servers?

How do I get name servers added to the COM TLD zone file which
are not listed in the NSI Registry WHOIS database?

   Domain Name: MICROSOFT.COM
   Registrar: NETWORK SOLUTIONS, INC.
   Whois Server: whois.networksolutions.com
   Referral URL: www.networksolutions.com
   Name Server: DNS4.CP.MSFT.NET
   Name Server: DNS5.CP.MSFT.NET
   Name Server: DNS7.CP.MSFT.NET
   Name Server: DNS6.CP.MSFT.NET
   Updated Date: 24-jan-2001

Name Server LookUp for microsoft.com
Search Type: NS - Authoritative name server
Name Server: a.root-servers.net

Header:
   ID=29916, QR=Response, Opcode=QUERY, RCODE=NO ERROR
   Authoritative Answer=No, Truncation=No
   Recursion Desired=Yes, Recursion Available=No
   QDCOUNT=1, ANCOUNT=8, NSCOUNT=0, ARCOUNT=8
Question:
   Name=microsoft.com, QTYPE=NS, QCLASS=1
Answer Section:
- Name=microsoft.com
    Type=NS, Class=1, TTL=172800 (2 Days), RDLENGTH=18
    Name Server=DNS4.CP.MSFT.NET
- Name=microsoft.com
    Type=NS, Class=1, TTL=172800 (2 Days), RDLENGTH=7
    Name Server=DNS5.CP.MSFT.NET
- Name=microsoft.com
    Type=NS, Class=1, TTL=172800 (2 Days), RDLENGTH=7
    Name Server=DNS7.CP.MSFT.NET
- Name=microsoft.com
    Type=NS, Class=1, TTL=172800 (2 Days), RDLENGTH=7
    Name Server=DNS6.CP.MSFT.NET
- Name=microsoft.com
    Type=NS, Class=1, TTL=172800 (2 Days), RDLENGTH=20
    Name Server=Z1.MSFT.AKADNS.COM
- Name=microsoft.com
    Type=NS, Class=1, TTL=172800 (2 Days), RDLENGTH=5
    Name Server=Z2.MSFT.AKADNS.COM
- Name=microsoft.com
    Type=NS, Class=1, TTL=172800 (2 Days), RDLENGTH=5
    Name Server=Z6.MSFT.AKADNS.COM
- Name=microsoft.com
    Type=NS, Class=1, TTL=172800 (2 Days), RDLENGTH=5
    Name Server=Z7.MSFT.AKADNS.COM
Additional Records Section:
- Name=DNS4.CP.MSFT.NET
    Type=A, Class=1, TTL=172800 (2 Days), RDLENGTH=4
    IP Address=207.46.138.11
- Name=DNS5.CP.MSFT.NET
    Type=A, Class=1, TTL=172800 (2 Days), RDLENGTH=4
    IP Address=207.46.138.12
- Name=DNS7.CP.MSFT.NET
    Type=A, Class=1, TTL=172800 (2 Days), RDLENGTH=4
    IP Address=207.46.138.21
- Name=DNS6.CP.MSFT.NET
    Type=A, Class=1, TTL=172800 (2 Days), RDLENGTH=4
    IP Address=207.46.138.20
- Name=Z1.MSFT.AKADNS.COM
    Type=A, Class=1, TTL=172800 (2 Days), RDLENGTH=4
    IP Address=216.32.118.104
- Name=Z2.MSFT.AKADNS.COM
    Type=A, Class=1, TTL=172800 (2 Days), RDLENGTH=4
    IP Address=32.96.80.17
- Name=Z6.MSFT.AKADNS.COM
    Type=A, Class=1, TTL=172800 (2 Days), RDLENGTH=4
    IP Address=207.229.152.20
- Name=Z7.MSFT.AKADNS.COM
    Type=A, Class=1, TTL=172800 (2 Days), RDLENGTH=4
    IP Address=213.161.66.158

[ On , January 26, 2001 at 23:28:06 (-0800), Sean Donelan wrote: ]

Subject: Hidden name servers?

How do I get name servers added to the COM TLD zone file which
are not listed in the NSI Registry WHOIS database?

Be careful where you query. There's not necessarily any relationship to
the times when the NSI WHOIS database is updated and the times when the
gTLD servers are updated.

The new NS records are in the right place now:

$ host -r -Z -t ns microsoft.com a.root-servers.net
microsoft.com. 172800 IN NS DNS4.CP.MSFT.NET.
microsoft.com. 172800 IN NS DNS5.CP.MSFT.NET.
microsoft.com. 172800 IN NS DNS7.CP.MSFT.NET.
microsoft.com. 172800 IN NS DNS6.CP.MSFT.NET.
microsoft.com. 172800 IN NS Z1.MSFT.AKADNS.COM.
microsoft.com. 172800 IN NS Z2.MSFT.AKADNS.COM.
microsoft.com. 172800 IN NS Z6.MSFT.AKADNS.COM.
microsoft.com. 172800 IN NS Z7.MSFT.AKADNS.COM.

In any case it is possible to list additional NS records in your zone in
order to achive higher reliability for your DNS in the case where the
registered servers are only intermittently available.... Note that this
doesn't help for long if the registered servers are totally unreachable
for longer than the TTL on the additional un-registered NS records.

I decided to do some RADB queries on the new dns server. Lo and behold,
different subnets and differents AS #'s for each. I guess Microsoft has
learned a little from this experience.

RADB Whois query for 216.32.118.104

route: 216.32.96.0/19
descr: NET-EXODUS-SantaClara
origin: AS3967
mnt-by: MAINT-AS3967
changed: radb@bengi.exodus.net 19990322
source: RADB

RADB Whois query for 32.96.80.17
route: 32.96.0.0/16
descr: IBM Global Services
origin: AS2685
member-of: RS-COMM_NSFNET
mnt-by: MAINT-AS2685
changed: pdsides@us.ibm.com 19980826
source: RADB

RADB Whois query for 207.229.152.20

route: 207.229.128.0/18
descr: EnterAct Corp.
               407 S. Dearborn St.
               Floor 6
               Chicago, IL 60605
origin: AS6555
mnt-by: MAINT-AS6555
changed: ablake@enteract.com 19990725
source: RADB

RADB Whois query for 213.161.66.158

route: 213.161.64.0/19
descr: AboveNet
origin: AS6461
mnt-by: MAINT-AS6461
changed: yifun@above.net 20001214
source: RADB