Hey, anyone who wanna help improve the net stability?

Umm, Gordon, read what Paul said.

He was saying that he suspected that the new /24s are in the swamp.
And even Sprint listens to any /24s from there.

The swamp is basically the old "Classful" address space.
What Sean did was to say "You can use your old 'Class C's
but I have to stop the table-size growth in *new allocations*".

Avi

Hi Paul,

you comment leaves me confused. 25,000 24s up 20% in the last six months
means 5,000 NEW prefix 24s in the global routing tables. Where did they
come from? I ask because I had thought that it was just about impossible

They either came from:

1) The swamp, or
2) Sprintlink customers

Sean's answer to 2) would be that other providers should adopt similar
filters.

to get a 24 routed at the nets defaultless core. And that this
impossibility has been around for at least the last 6 months.

I thought that if "cooknet" as a new MCI customer has a 24 handed to it by
mci all nice and cidrized that "cooknet's" 24 would never appear in your
list being aggregated by mci along with other 24s to make a smaller prefix

True if MCI aggregated properly. But if you're dual-homed to Sprintlink,
Sprint'd announce it for you - and if you used a 2-year-old "Class C"
obtained for "cooknet" from the NIC, Sprint would hear that and/or
announce it for you (depending on whether you're a customer, of course).

that would be announced eventually in the global tables? Have I
misunderstood something or is theory diverging from practice.

Avi

Avi pointed out:

The swamp is basically the old "Classful" address space.
What Sean did was to say "You can use your old 'Class C's
but I have to stop the table-size growth in *new allocations*".

==>Is the swamp then bounded by class c addresses warranted as routable when
==>they were handed out? Are you saying then that the defaultless core
==>routability of class c's from the swamp is, as of now, guaranteed?

They were never warranted or guaranteed as routable. However, the NIC
didn't place any warnings that space smaller than a certain amount may not
be routable, and at the time, no one had placed filters on route
distribution like SprintLink's. The NIC opted to revise its wording on
the application around the same time SprintLink placed its filter on new
allocations.

For right now, the routability of class C's is not guaranteed out of the
swamp; however, I know of no route filters out there which will restrict
them.

/cah