good geographic for servers reaching the South East Asia market

Hi All,

I guess this is a bit off-topic since this is the North American network operators group, but I was wondering if anybody had much experience with fiber infrastructure in the South East Asia area.

For reference, generally the WikiPedia entry on South East Asia describes the service delivery area:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southeast_Asia

Basically looking for tips on what cities/countries/locations have as much (mostly submarine cabling in this case?) fiber connectivity and redundancy. From there I can trim down where to begin looking specifically at data centers and colocation options.

Also, if anybody offhand has any tips on political stability and/or the risk of some kind of unwanted censorship by a given country, that would be helpful as well.

Feel free to post back on-list or off-list.

Thanks,

- Michael DeMan

Singapore, with a fallback / DR location in say Hong Kong.

[Or vice versa depending on what parts of south east asia you want ..
for india, singapore would be your best bet]

Hello from Cambodia. I am familiar with the situation in Cambodia
and some surrounding countries.

Basically looking for tips on what cities/countries/locations
have as much (mostly submarine cabling in this case?) fiber
connectivity and redundancy. From there I can trim down where to
begin looking specifically at data centers and colocation options.

Hong Kong, Singapore (and Taiwan).

Hong Kong is the best choice for some countries in the region:
countries such as Cambodia and Vietnam have their uplinks mostly
through Hong Kong.

Singapore is the best choice for others: Thailand, Malaysia and
Indonesia have good connectivity to Singapore.

Taiwan I would place as the 3rd option.

No other realistic options exist in the region beyond that... US
west coast is often the best option if you are not prepared to spend
a lot of money (but check your upstream's peering with major SEA
providers first).

Also, if anybody offhand has any tips on political stability
and/or the risk of some kind of unwanted censorship by a given
country, that would be helpful as well.

All countries within the region are unsafe when it comes to censorship.
Hong Kong is probably the only nearby place which does not openly
practice censorship currently, but I would not count on that as
it is just a (autonomous) province of China.

Hi,

I wanted to thank everybody for their feedback. Everything seems to correlate with what I have heard - generally Hong Kong and Singapore are the major hubs, with Tokyo even being an option even though it is not 'geographically' close and also possibly there are options in Malaysia.

I think I have what I need for this. I am just a worker-bee on this project getting preliminary information for a potential project by a client next year, which may not or may not even be a 'go' anyway.

Out of curiosity, I stumbled across this kind of cool map of submarine cables - does anybody know if it is very accurate or up to date? If nothing else, it is kind of fun to play with since you can slide around and zoom in/out with it and stuff.

http://www.cablemap.info/

- Mike

I wouldn't recommend malaysia when singapore is available next door
with excellent connectivity region wide

Hi Janne,

Any thoughts about Malaysia? The outfit I am working for on this right now already has manufacturing facilities there and it would be easier for them to do it in-country.

I would guess that probably everything from Kuala Lampur area is trunked via Singapore anyway?

- mike

Far from true, Allmost all subsea cables land in both countries. there
are a few that only land in one. There is overland fiber connectivity as
well. Though, choice of carriers available inside carrier hotels in
Singapore is much higher.

Ultimately, your choices will be determined by other factors (costs,
ease of deployments), then based on connectivity.

- -gaurab

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http://www.gaurab.org.np/