From Europe to Australia via right way

Hello,

There is some telecom, isp which have route from EU to AU via east or south east (via Russia, Red sea or other ways) ? Now i have path via US and looking something in opposite direction.

thanks for some info, contact.
Piotr

Yes, I believe PCCW had the route at one time.

Roderick Beck
Sales Director/Europe and the Americas
Hibernia Networks
http://www.hibernianetworks.com
Budapest and New York
36-30-859-5144
rod.beck@hibernianetworks.com

Hello,

There is some telecom, isp which have route from EU to AU via east or
south east (via Russia, Red sea or other ways) ? Now i have path via US
and looking something in opposite direction.

telstra ntt reliance retn all have eastbound paths from europe.

you won't find internet packets going that way though (most of the time).
You can buy a L2vpn, p2p, etc, that will though.

Some times you can get luck and go through SE-ME-WE3 (we it's not cut) but most path's are via the US.
What is your destination network in Australia.

Matt

I don’t believe anyone has significant IP network capacity going EU -> Australia in that direction, esp. since once you get to Singapore, the options to get to Australia are limited.

Even for networks that do have EU to Asia connectivity via Indian Ocean or land route to north Asia, the preferred path would be via US and transpac.

-dorian

It's close to Sydney, 203.18.241.0/24

What's the reason, there are some telecoms,isp that have paths eastbound, southbound but in routing table they prefer longer path via US ?

regards,
Piotr

W dniu 2015-04-02 o 01:45, Matt Perkins pisze:

Come on - you do know that it's called "policy" routing for a reason?
Costs, reserved bw/s for high-rollers, capacity...

(Sometimes sheer stupidity, too)

Elmar.

Sure, you can use static routes as well[1].

  For those that are interested you can take a look
at http://www.submarinecablemap.com/ to get an idea of what path
might be feasible. I will say that telecom costs tend to be
related to political stability, so when computing shortest
path cost often comes into play.

  Also, What I'm often reminding people is low-latency isn't
always the right solution, because loss is more important. I am
less concerned about another 25-100ms if there is little jitter
and zero loss.

  - Jared

[1] - https://twitter.com/jaredmauch/status/583227901555961856

There's a new AAE-1 cable currently being laid (sunk!) that comes online
early 2016 that will help. But right now alot of traffic cuts across the US
as it's still the 'best' route for reasons other that latency as others
have already mentioned.

The new AAE-1 will have 40Tbps connections from Europe to Hong Kong so
hopefully the routes will start to migrate in 2016 and give us an Easterly
route to APAC that has enough capacity to be stable in that direction

I think this stability is key, I’ve been watching a testing team go round and
round with a telco that seems to think that 1 second hits is acceptable through
this area and they are unwilling to resolve it and seem to be begging “please
just accept the circuit”.

- Jared

What kind of failover hit times are they looking for? 50ms?

Mark.

Seeing multiple hit times within a 24h period isn’t really acceptable and keeps
these paths from being viable.

They are claiming they are within 50ms.

- Jared

Seeing multiple hit times within a 24h period isn’t really acceptable and keeps
these paths from being viable.

Agreed.

They are claiming they are within 50ms.

Which makes sense if the end-to-end path is less than 50ms re: seeing
hitless failovers on the IP routers.

If the end-to-end path is crossing continents, a local failure which is
repaired within 50ms will still cause a longer/noticeable outage for the
IP routers connected at either end of said circuit.

Mark.

If you want a direct path then SMW3 remains the only cable for the final
leg from Singapore to Perth and it's capacity is only a few hundred
gigabits. There are at least 2 proposed new systems racing to get into the
water between Singapore and Perth to try and address this gap in supply and
demand.

Low latency routes like this would be very attractive to financial firms trading in both Europe and Asia. My hunch is that most of these circuits are linear - unprotected. And if you get damage in Siberia or Northern China repairs could be mighty slow.

Roderick Beck
Sales Director/Europe and the Americas
Hibernia Networks
http://www.hibernianetworks.com

If you want a direct path then SMW3 remains the only cable for the final
leg from Singapore to Perth and it's capacity is only a few hundred
gigabits. There are at least 2 proposed new systems racing to get into
the water between Singapore and Perth to try and address this gap in
supply and demand.

it's also another 2000 miles from perth to syd...