final agenda for August 10th DA Workshop

Probably will have final tweaks. Web site: http://isotf.org/isoi.html

Please note, aside to bringing us all together, one of the main goals is
seeing the different perspectives and current operations of the different
sides of the fight.

Namely:
Law enforcement, Anti Viruses, Anti Spam, Dynamic DNS Porviders and ISP's.

So far, 67 spots out of 75 available at the Cisco facility in San Jose are
taken.

The agenda is quite tight.

Thank you all for your support in setting this up at such short notice,
and for the community for getting involved beyond the closed circle
groups. Even if the participation vetting remains only for the closed
groups, some CFP submissions have been very interesting and allowed.

As the communities around DA and MWP were originally started from NANOG
and an AV-ers list, I am very glad the NANOG community remains involved at
the level it does.

Agenda

Please note, aside to bringing us all together, one of the main goals is
seeing the different perspectives and current operations of the different
sides of the fight.

The agenda is quite tight.

Perhaps *too* tight. When I was at Usenix SRUTI '05 last year, the single
biggest problem with an otherwise good workshop was a lack of cross-pollination
time. And that schedule was nowhere *near* as tight, and fewer attendees.

Remember that the hallway track of a conference is where much of the
most interesting stuff happens:

http://www.google.com/search?q=conference+"hallway+track"

11:55 - 12:30 Lunch break Got chow?

Indicative of the problem. 3 hours of sessions, followed by only a half hour
to eat *and* discuss (at SRUTI, it was an hour, lunch was provided, and it
*still* wasn't enough time to eat and discuss as well). Then another 6 hours of
sessions scheduled with only a 10 minute break.

> The agenda is quite tight.

Perhaps *too* tight. When I was at Usenix SRUTI '05 last year, the
single biggest problem with an otherwise good workshop was a lack of
cross-pollination time.

agreed. (i was on the progcomm for that; thanks for your kind words.)

Remember that the hallway track of a conference is where much of the
most interesting stuff happens:

conference "hallway track" - Google Search

> 11:55 - 12:30 Lunch break Got chow?

Indicative of the problem.

also agreed. which is why there's this little ditty at the end:

  After-party:
  Dinner, hosted by the ISC.

this is "pizza and beer in the warehouse" but it'll allow cross-pollination.

You are, of course right.
You should keep in mind we all work with these issues on a daily bases for
a while now.
If any of us can't keep up with the brief to-the-point tech and strategy
talks, well.. oh well. The workshop itself is an open enviroment, with
food and driks served at one wall and free wireless access.

Further, you should keep in mind most of us know each other well.

Not that it would change much, but there is another 10 minutes break later
in the day and the evening to discuss over beer. Plus a life-time to
continue on our respective lists.

That said, you are right and we will aim to do better next time. Just be
careful, because I fully intend to dump at least some of the work on your
shoulders next time. :slight_smile:

  Gadi.

> > The agenda is quite tight.
>
> Perhaps *too* tight. When I was at Usenix SRUTI '05 last year, the
> single biggest problem with an otherwise good workshop was a lack of
> cross-pollination time.

agreed. (i was on the progcomm for that; thanks for your kind words.)

> Remember that the hallway track of a conference is where much of the
> most interesting stuff happens:
>
> conference "hallway track" - Google Search
>
> > 11:55 - 12:30 Lunch break Got chow?
>
> Indicative of the problem.

also agreed. which is why there's this little ditty at the end:

  After-party:
  Dinner, hosted by the ISC.

this is "pizza and beer in the warehouse" but it'll allow cross-pollination.

At this point in time I would like to publicly thank Cisco for the space,
and Paul at the ISC for the after-party dinner.