FCC dealt major blow in net neutrality ruling favoring, Comcast

The FCC is structured in such a way that the chairman calls all the shots on policy matters. In this instance, the former chairman, Kevin Martin, was responsible for the Comcast order but the current chairman, Julius Genachowski, had to defend it in court. Some wags insist that the defense was a bit lackluster because Genachowski didn't much care for the legal basis of the Comcast order, which relied on a lot of smoke and mirrors to regulate aspects of edge network behavior that Congress never told the FCC to regulate. The defense relied on some legal theories that weren't used in the order itself, and that's a no-no in an appeal. The court took the rather extraordinary step of suggesting arguments that the FCC could have used in the appeal that it didn't use.

  The murky status of Internet regulation is actually quite enjoyable to network operators and to policy wonks alike because it allows maximum freedom of action. This will continue, of course, until Congress tells the FCC to go regulate the Internet according to some yet-to-be-defined framework.


The FCC is structured in such a way that the chairman calls all the shots on
policy matters. In this instance, the former chairman, Kevin Martin, was
responsible for the Comcast order but the current chairman, Julius
Genachowski, had to defend it in court. Some wags insist that the defense
was a bit lackluster because Genachowski didn't much care for the legal
basis of the Comcast order, which relied on a lot of smoke and mirrors to
regulate aspects of edge network behavior that Congress never told the FCC
to regulate. The defense relied on some legal theories that weren't used in
the order itself, and that's a no-no in an appeal. The court took the rather
extraordinary step of suggesting arguments that the FCC could have used in
the appeal that it didn't use.


Research Fellow
Information Technology and Innovation Foundation

It should probably be noted, for purpose of establishing bias, that
Richard is a Washington lobbyist, hired to represent Comcast on
regulatory matters. What he views as overstepping legal bounds,
others may view as protecting consumers...

Drive Slow,
Paul Wall

Hell, funnily enough Susan Crawford warned at the time that the FCC
action wouldn't stand up in court the way it was done.



One of the things I like about e-mail lists is learning things about myself that I never knew before, especially regarding my occupation. For the last 9 months or so I've been working part-time with a Washington think tank in an analyst capacity, not as a lobbyist, and not on the Comcast payroll. My views about Internet regulation precede this job and haven't been altered by it. For purposes of the present discussion, I'd rather be known as the guy who wrote the first IEEE 802 standard for Ethernet over twisted pair, or designed the Wi-Fi MAC protocol, or the DRP for UWB, or something like that.

As Suresh notes, the idea that the FCC overstepped its bounds in the Comcast order is hardly controversial. It's not even a matter of opinion any more, as the decision written by the most liberal judge on the 3rd Circuit, David Tatel, means it's the law. The debate about how to regulate the Internet is now premised on the fact that the old rationale doesn't hold up to scrutiny, so deal with it.


I'm certain that's who you are. Hell, what I do for CORE means I'm a
ICANN lobbyist when I'm not writing code, and I'd prefer to be the guy
who wrote XPG/1 and XPG/4.2 (Single Unix Specification to those on
Redmond shared fate devices).


You neglected to mention that the "think tank" (where I'm from in
Houston, we call them lobbys) is funded by Comcast, among other big
cable/telecom players.

Drive Slow,
Paul Wall

In fairness to to the ITIF (his current employer), they're well-respected in their core area, studying innovation policy. I've seen some of the work done by Rob Atkinson (full disclosure: Rob is currently visiting my university giving a talk), and it's good.

That said, I dislike strongly Richard's M.O. of trying to stir up hornets nests by playing the fool/troll in order to get NANOG and other venues to do his job for him, and I hope this statement doesn't come across as a defense of that. I've already plonked him.

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You're speculating that ITIF gets funding from Comcast, and therefore
   guessing I'm singing Comcast's song. But you don't know whether Comcast
   actually is an ITIF sponsor, just as you don't know whether Google,
   Intel, and Microsoft are ITIF sponsors. And then you're speculating
   again regarding the relationships between sponsors and fellows.
   Paul, it's obvious you don't know what you're talking about re:
   Internet regulation policy or the nature of DC think tanks, so why you
   you just STFU rather than embarrass yourself further?

If only the ITIF released information about their funding sources.

So, does Comcast contribute funds or otherwise sponsor ITIF?
Does Google, Intel, or Microsoft?


You might want to ring up the IEEE and get them to fix their egregious
omission of your name as the designer of the Wi-Fi MAC protocol.



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Thanks for pointing that out.