It finally happened... too bad.
Yes. But what does this mean to the network world? I dont think very much.
Last I checked, AS_174 is still up and running. And I highly doubt anyone
is going to go and turn the datacenters off tomorrow... Remember, this is
Chapter 11 and not Chapter 7. If it was Chapter 7, I would be more
worried. From the news stories I have read, Exodus had a lot of debt. I
think they are going Chapter11 to get rid of that dept.
Airlines have done this in the past..... as have other companies. Not all
make it but some come out of it in the end...
Christian
Well, I would suggest that it may mean that certain customers will be
looking for other solutions, certain network links might also be
severed making it somewhat more difficult to get reliable connectivity
to the various locations within Exodus, and yet more geeks may be
living in cardboard boxes before the year is out.
Lets not forget that globalcrossing (who already laid off 13,000
people a couple of months ago), as a result of the sale of
globalcenter to exodus has a 20% stake in that company. Their stock is
now worthless. They also had contracts (which will no doubt be
renegotiated) as part of the sale to provide Exodus with at least 50%
(if I remember correctly) of their connectivity. No doubt the
bankruptcy will cause that company some considerable consternation
which could adversely affect their end of the year results meaning yet
MORE geeks could be living in cardboard boxes before the year is out.
Don't think that financial matters don't impact the network in some
ways. If companies of these sizes are struggling, what does that mean
for AT&T, Sprint, and WorldCom?
If various people decide they are losing money on their backbones,
they might be more inclined to oversell it, meaning more congestion
and more packetloss overall until the business climate
improves. Perhaps they'll delay upgrading that overworked router in
chicago or boston. Maybe they'll decide that the engineers don't
really need a full 8 hours of sleep and will allow certain problems to
persist instead of correcting them in a timely fashion. Who knows what
people will be willing to do to cut costs.
Deffinitely food for thought.
-Wayne
Yesterday, Wayne Bouchard, a former employee of Global Crossing, posted
erroneous, misleading, wholly inaccurate information about the state
of Global Crossing and its finances.
Lets not forget that globalcrossing (who already laid off 13,000
people a couple of months ago)
Global Crossing currently employs approximately 11,000 employees. This
summer, in an effort to cut costs and streamline our organizational
structure, Global Crossing laid-off less than 2,000 employees.
No doubt the bankruptcy will cause that company some considerable
consternation which could adversely affect their end of the year
results meaning yet MORE geeks could be living in cardboard boxes
before the year is out.
Global Crossing has already recovered 100% of the bandwidth loss across
our network realized by the extrication of Global Center traffic from our
backbone.
In no way does the financial outlook of Global Crossing and its network
rely on Exodus. Our revenue streams continue to grow at a steady clip, our
quarterly earnings report continue to reflect an EBIDTA-positive
organization, and each day we sign up more and more customers, large and
small, who utilize our 101,000+ route-mile global fiber optic network.
Our network build was fully funded. With the sale of Frontier
Communications by Global Crossing to Citizens Communications, Global
Crossing was able to pay down more than 50% of its long-term debt.
Global Crossing is in sound financial shape. Its long-term financial
outlook is bright, our customers are happy, and we'll be here running one
of the world's largest and fastest fiber optic networks long after many of
our competitors close their doors.
/david
Yesterday, Wayne Bouchard, a former employee of Global Crossing, posted
erroneous, misleading, wholly inaccurate information about the state
of Global Crossing and its finances.
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Global Crossing is in sound financial shape. Its long-term financial
outlook is bright, our customers are happy, and we'll be here running one
of the world's largest and fastest fiber optic networks long after many of
our competitors close their doors.
http://edgar.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1061322/000095013001503918/d10q.txt
Alex
I am glad to hear such good news. However, I suggest you have your statement
reviewed by the company legal team. I know the SEC would be interested on
this seeming official statement from glbx.
Roy Engehausen
David R Huberman wrote:
Hi,
In order to settle any questions and to make clear my position, I am
posting the following reply to David Huberman's message.
First off, let me say that in no way were my statements intended as a
negative against globalcrossing. I merely refferenced the company as a
close associate of Exodus and, as a 20% shareholder in addition to
other terms of the globalcenter sale as published by various sources,
including globalcrossings own press releases that, for the time being,
globalcrossing and exodus maintain a close relationship. I do not
believe I implied (or at least I did not intend to) that
globalcrossing relied on exodus for its future, just that exodus had
considerable and not unimportant dealings with globalcrossing.
I generaly have a positive outlook for the future of globalcrossing
and know its technical staff is capable and qualified for the work
they do.
Yesterday, Wayne Bouchard, a former employee of Global Crossing, posted
erroneous, misleading, wholly inaccurate information about the state
of Global Crossing and its finances.
(For the record, it has been just shy of two full years since I left
globalcrossing. I left on good terms and still maintain a friendly
relationship with many who work there.)
To clarify globalcrossing's financial position, I refer you to the
financial statements indicating globalcrossing losing billions of
dollars each year with no projected positive pro-forma earnings for
some time to come. This does not suggest they are in imminent danger
of folding. It simply states that, although they do have good revenue
streams and a farily diverse client base not just in the US but also
in other parts of the globe, they have yet to turn a profit.
As a 20% shareholder in exodus, the decline in exodus' stock means
that globalcrossing has fewer resources to draw upon than it did
before, should something unexpected occur. The changing landscape
will, without doubt, have repercussions. I did not intend to imply
that globalcrossing would not be able to cope with them.
> Lets not forget that globalcrossing (who already laid off 13,000
> people a couple of months ago)Global Crossing currently employs approximately 11,000 employees. This
summer, in an effort to cut costs and streamline our organizational
structure, Global Crossing laid-off less than 2,000 employees.
Yes, this error was pointed out to me shortly thereafter. I publicly,
and humbly appologize for the misquoted figures. My error, no one
elses. It does not, however, change the fact that globalcrossing has
been forced to layoff a percentage of employees in order to shave
costs, which was the point I was trying to illustrate.
> No doubt the bankruptcy will cause that company some considerable
> consternation which could adversely affect their end of the year
> results meaning yet MORE geeks could be living in cardboard boxes
> before the year is out.Global Crossing has already recovered 100% of the bandwidth loss across
our network realized by the extrication of Global Center traffic from our
backbone.In no way does the financial outlook of Global Crossing and its network
rely on Exodus. Our revenue streams continue to grow at a steady clip, our
quarterly earnings report continue to reflect an EBIDTA-positive
organization, and each day we sign up more and more customers, large and
small, who utilize our 101,000+ route-mile global fiber optic network.Our network build was fully funded. With the sale of Frontier
Communications by Global Crossing to Citizens Communications, Global
Crossing was able to pay down more than 50% of its long-term debt.
Yes, globalcrossing's debt is all long term and not due for some
time. This is a real positive for the company which will contribute to
its survival. The debt does, however, remain as do the interest
payments.
Global Crossing is in sound financial shape. Its long-term financial
outlook is bright, our customers are happy, and we'll be here running one
of the world's largest and fastest fiber optic networks long after many of
our competitors close their doors.
My message was not intended to imply imminent problems with any
network, merely to state that an action such as the
bankruptcy/reorganization of a company the size of exodus could well
have a ripple effect that might adversely affect those with which it
does business, at least in the short term. If any of this was taken as
negative statements against globalcrossing (a company which I do,
personally, feel is in a better position than others to come out ahead
when the economy comes back) then I again apologize.
And I offer my personal appologies to Mr. Huberman if it was at all
thought I was maliciously speaking ill of my former employer. That was
in no way my intent. I intended to do no more than help those on the
list be able to see that financial matters do, in fact, have a bearing
on the internet by affecting decisions that companies may make. I am
very sorry for any ill feeling I have caused and pray that this matter
may be put to rest.
-Wayne