Not really north american content, except for the using equinix as a comparison:
Anyone care to recommend a European equivalent of an Equinix site? (Carrier neutral, well secured space, good power/building/HVAC management; lots of carriers present; ideally with a peering switch; not exorbitant cross connect fees)
We're looking at opening our first European datacenter.
Thanks
InterXion has quite a few datacenters in Europe. Most of them house (a
part of) the local peering infrastructure. They are all carrier neutral,
the power/HVAC/security is very good/...
Kind Regards,
Frank Louwers
Well, there are quite a few to choose from, but it depends greatly on
where in Europe you are thinking of - certain countries have an
abundance of carrier-neutral co-lo available, elsewhere it's practically
impossible to find.
I personally have good experiences with TeleCity
(http://www.telecity.com) in the places I've dealt with them (Stockholm
and London).
/leg
Monday, May 19, 2003, 11:24:39 PM, Steve wrote:
We're looking at opening our first European datacenter.
I am bit surprised nobody has mentioned redbus yet.
http://www.interhouse.redbus.com/
There is also scolocate in Edinburgh, Scotland
http://www.scolocate.com (flash only website)
Locating in Scotland is always a good excuse to "sample" the local
wiskys too 
If you want a neutral evaluation of the various
capabilities of the datacenter providers, check out
telegeography - http://www.telegeography.com. They
have a datacenter and colocation guide which (if it's
as thorough as their other guides) should have
everything you ever wanted to know and more. The
guides are not cheap ($400 or so), but VERY complete,
particularly so for European facilities.
-David Barak
Europe being quite large perhaps this can be better answered with a specific
city in mind?
Theres a lot of neutral centres but watch out, many are not that well fibred
out.. make sure you have the carriers there that you need. Also keep an eye out
for someone who's stable .. a few have gone bankrupt and others may still follow
and unlike in the US when a company goes bankrupt theres no safety net ch11, its
just switch off and asset sale.
Personally I'd use Telehouse or Telecity..
Steve
Depends on the country. Here in Belgium, there exists a
<lang="nl">gerechtelijk akkoord</lang="nl">, which is about the same as
ch11, but the conditions are more strict. A year long "gerechtelijk
akkoord" would be impossible, and you need to have a restructuring plan
BEFORE you ask such a thing.
Vriendelijke groeten,
Frank Louwers
Likewise in the UK - there is administrative receivership, the company is
handed over to the accountants who attempt to sell/resucitate the business.
However an indication of where you want to be in Europe would help people
advise you.
If peering is important http://www.euro-ix.net/isp/choosing/ has a peering
matrix showing which ASs appear at which of the 28 member exchange points.
There are also maps and lists of IXPs to help you choose a location.
f
>> Theres a lot of neutral centres but watch out, many are not that well fibred
>> out.. make sure you have the carriers there that you need. Also keep an
>>eye out
>> for someone who's stable .. a few have gone bankrupt and others may
>>still follow
>> and unlike in the US when a company goes bankrupt theres no safety net
>>ch11, its
>> just switch off and asset sale.
>
>Depends on the country. Here in Belgium, there exists a
><lang="nl">gerechtelijk akkoord</lang="nl">, which is about the same as
>ch11, but the conditions are more strict. A year long "gerechtelijk
>akkoord" would be impossible, and you need to have a restructuring plan
>BEFORE you ask such a thing.
>Likewise in the UK - there is administrative receivership, the company is
handed over to the accountants who attempt to sell/resucitate the business.
Hmm eg KPNQ just turned off when the receivers walked in... and you could not
remove your property until they gave it the all clear some weeks later...
Steve
The administrators were probably concerned with ensuring that they had
identified who owned what, I would imagine a similar scenario in Ch 11
actions. However my understanding is that when the KPN administrators
walked in they kept the business running for as long as possible, certainly
in the Netherlands they were routing packets for a few weeks after they
were appointed, I don't know about the data centres, but they did not just
switch everything off as soon as they arrived.
f
http://colofinder.net/exchanges.shtml
I know it's not a list of colos, but logical reasoning tells us that major IXes will be located in top tier colo facilities. Does anyone know what building the DE-CIX is located in? Their peak traffic is 12Gb/s.
Telehouse Docklands or Telecity (home sites of the LINX) would be good choices, imho...
* eric@fnordsystems.com (Eric Kuhnke) [Tue 27 May 2003, 13:15 CEST]:
That duplicates to a large extent
http://www.euro-ix.net/isp/choosing/search/matrix.php
I know it's not a list of colos, but logical reasoning tells us that
major IXes will be located in top tier colo facilities. Does anyone
know what building the DE-CIX is located in? Their peak traffic is
12Gb/s.
InterXion, Frankfurt.
Telehouse Docklands or Telecity (home sites of the LINX) would be good
choices, imho...
One of AMS-IX' four locations is Telecity II (Amsterdam).
Regards,
-- Niels.