Oh! Sorry, we didn't know Jim FLEMING was behind it. I'm sure we're all glad to be thus reassured of its bona fides.
As requested by Pascal Gloor on EuroNOG mailing-list, i reply to
Stephane's message.
Flames & co > /dev/null
a message of 45 lines which said:
> how/why is this proposed group distinct from the European Operator Forum?
Bill, Nicolas Deffayet just wanted a NOG for himself. Let him play.
For those who are not members of the 6bone or who do not know France,
let's remind them that:* NDsoftware does not exist (it is not in the French directory of
companies)
NDSoftware exist.
* Mike Cheney does not exist (NDsoftware lists several english names
because it is "more serious" but all of them are actually fake)
Mike CHENEY exist. Mike is (with 2 other people) the EuroNOG founder.
* Euronog is just a spinoff of NDsoftware, no operator ever
participated in it.
EuroNOG is neutral.
NDSoftware is just a sponsor for domain, website and hosting.
There is many operators on euronog@ml.euronog.org and there are active:
1: First message
2 Feb 2003 Nicolas DEFFAYET
2: EuroNOG (European Network Operators Group)
3 Feb 2003 Mike CHENEY
3: lets start!!!
3 Feb 2003 Pascal Gloor
4: Re: lets start!!!
3 Feb 2003 Pascal Gloor
5: Re: lets start!!!
3 Feb 2003 Nicolas DEFFAYET
6: Welcome & Workgroup Proposal
4 Feb 2003 Jan Czmok
7: Re: Welcome & Workgroup Proposal
4 Feb 2003 Nicolas DEFFAYET
8: Re: lets start!!!
4 Feb 2003 Blindauer Emmanuel
9: TODO proposal
4 Feb 2003 Nicolas DEFFAYET
10: Re: TODO proposal
4 Feb 2003 Henk Uijterwaal (RIPE-NCC)
11: Re: TODO proposal
4 Feb 2003 Mike CHENEY
12: "...explain how Euronog will differ..." ?
4 Feb 2003 Jim Fleming
13: DDoS tracking WG
4 Feb 2003 Daniel Concepcion
14: Re: DDoS tracking WG
4 Feb 2003 Jim Fleming
15: Re: DDoS tracking WG
4 Feb 2003 Michael Hallgren
16: Re: DDoS tracking WG
4 Feb 2003 Daniel Concepcion
17: Re: TODO proposal
4 Feb 2003 Mike CHENEY
18: Re: DDoS tracking WG
5 Feb 2003 Mike CHENEY
19: explanations needed
5 Feb 2003 Pascal Gloor
20: Re: DDoS tracking WG
5 Feb 2003 Jan Czmok
21: Re: explanations needed
5 Feb 2003 Jim Fleming
22: Re: DDoS tracking WG
5 Feb 2003 Jan Czmok
23: Re: DDoS tracking WG
5 Feb 2003 Daniel Concepcion
24: NOC contact list...database development...
5 Feb 2003 Jim Fleming
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