Dear List,
I've got an upcoming deployment in Equinix (DC10) and I'm struggling to
find a provider who can give me a 100Mbit port (With a commit of about
5-10Mbit) with a /23 or /24 of public space , for OOB purposes. We had
hoped to use Equinixs services, however they're limiting us to a single
public IP.
I'm also open to other solutions - xDSL or similar, but emphasis is on
cheap and on-net.
Cheers
/Ruairi
Couldn't you put a router or VPN system on the single IP they are giving
you and use RFC1918 addressing space?
OOB doesn't normally justify a /24 let alone a /23.
Hey,
VPN setup is not really a viable option (for us) in this scenario.
Honestly, I'd prefer to just call it done already and have a VPN but due to
certain restraints, we have to go down this route.
/Ruairi
I'd be doubtful if anyone will feel like offering a /23 with OOB as justification these days, sadly.
Good luck nonetheless.
Hey,
VPN setup is not really a viable option (for us) in this scenario.
Honestly, I'd prefer to just call it done already and have a VPN but due to
certain restraints, we have to go down this route.
Without explaining the "restraints," this kinda boils down to "'cuz we
want it," which stopped being good justification many years ago.
I doubt you'll find many takers who would want to provide you with a
circuit for a few Mbps with a /23 for OOB purposes "'just cuz."
I note that we're present in Equinix Ashburn and could do it, and that
this is basically a nonstarter for us.
... JG
"just cuz" ack'ing packets for the spam we are sending will be possible
then.
Is likely what goes through most people's minds...
Greets,
Jeroen
> Hey,
>
> VPN setup is not really a viable option (for us) in this scenario.
> Honestly, I'd prefer to just call it done already and have a VPN but due
to
> certain restraints, we have to go down this route.Without explaining the "restraints," this kinda boils down to "'cuz we
want it," which stopped being good justification many years ago.
Well, I was hoping that I could get some good pointers about where to look
to open up the sales discussion and what is possible for us (With some
trickery, we could probably do under </24, however again - I dont want a
design discussion right now).
I was really hoping that this would not turn out to be some bikeshedding or
discussions about design constraints in public.
Either way, thank you for taking the time to reply.
/ruairi
> Hey,
>
> VPN setup is not really a viable option (for us) in this scenario.
> Honestly, I'd prefer to just call it done already and have a VPN but due to
> certain restraints, we have to go down this route.Without explaining the "restraints," this kinda boils down to "'cuz we
want it," which stopped being good justification many years ago.
Not to ARIN, which isn't in the business of deciding what uses are
valid and what uses are not valid (only that there is, in fact, use).
With the recent reduction in minimum allocation sizes, he could get PI
space for this directly from ARIN (depending on his previous
allocations and efficient utilization thereof, of course).
I doubt you'll find many takers who would want to provide you with a
circuit for a few Mbps with a /23 for OOB purposes "'just cuz."I note that we're present in Equinix Ashburn and could do it, and that
this is basically a nonstarter for us.
Not an unreasonable business decision. His challange will be finding a
provider large enough that they can easily allocate a /23 but small
enough that they're interested in a 10(ish) Mbps connection that isn't
likely to grow much.
-- Brett
I'd be doubtful if anyone will feel like offering a /23 with OOB as
justification these days, sadly.
why thought? Justification is really about having a use for the ips,
right? and if you have 500 servers/network-devices ... then you have
justification for a /23 ... it seems to me.
Why use IPv4 for OOB? Seems a little late in the day for that.
-Bill
because a /23 of ipv6 is very large.... 
also, it's hard to use ipv6 when your last miile provider doesn't offer it...
#fios
Unless Equinix have an actual product called OoB, in which
case it automatically comes with a /30, or /126.
Mark.
I hear the chaps at Hurricane Electric can help you with a nice tunnel for that...
Indeed. I've had one in place for probably two years. Works like a charm.
Kudos to Owen & co
jms
just last week i was able to get a /23 from $ISP as part of my transit
purchase with them for one location, but you still have to explain and
justify your use to $ISP (who in-turn has to explain/justify to ARIN). if
you can't do that, it really is "just cuz i want it". like someone else
said previously, that just doesn't work nowadays. so, due the diligence, or
rethink your design.
if you can legit justify it, and particularly if you are doing bgp, there's
really no reason why any worthwhile transit provider won't give you a /24.
I hear the chaps at Hurricane Electric can help you with a nice tunnel
for that...
there is no such thing as a nice tunnel
yea.. because when the sh*t hits the fan I REALLY need a dependency
upon a wonky tunnel server made of cheese and mouse parts to be in the
middle of my work process?
I hear the chaps at Hurricane Electric can help you with a nice
tunnel for that...yea.. because when the sh*t hits the fan I REALLY need a dependency
upon a wonky tunnel server made of cheese and mouse parts to be in the
middle of my work process?
wait a sec! there's cheese? where?
randy, who may have to rethink tunnels
I hear the chaps at Hurricane Electric can help you with a nice
tunnel for that...yea.. because when the sh*t hits the fan I REALLY need a dependency
upon a wonky tunnel server made of cheese and mouse parts to be in the
middle of my work process?wait a sec! there's cheese? where?
I understand that it is ashburn equinix.
randy, who may have to rethink tunnels
cheese++